Daniel Levy - Chairman

[JPG_357]

Enic has to answer to their shareholders but are there any other than Levy (29%) and Lewis?

I agree that its better the way we do it. If Enic sells we can continue along the same lines. If Abramovich or Mansoor sold, Chelsea and City would face uncertain times.

since when didn't we have 'uncertain times' at Spurs

Seriously, whatever happens to City and Chelsea in the future, they have had success beyond their wildest dreams NOW. I would love it, love it if we could have such success and take the future as it comes.

 

[braineclipse]

I'm not blaming them, I say quite clearly 'that's their prerogative'. What I'm saying is while they're in charge we'll continue to miss out on the two big trophies, IMHO

While our record in the lesser trophies ain't great.

In 12 years under ENIC one lge cup

Go back twelve years bbefore ENIC, the 'barren years', we won TWICE as many trophies including an FA CUp. So while ENIC have done a good job overall, it's not been great.

But this has very little to do with how well they are doing as owners and Levy is doing as a chairman. As long as it's their perogative that should pretty much be the end of that part of the conversation.

 

[JoeMo]

HI Ricky, no it's not me, compared to most of my peers I am not materialistic. I've supported Spurs loyally for over 50 years as well and continue to do so.

I just don't buy into the idea that Levy ENIC have done a great job, because the trophy cabinet says 'no'. They have done well, but not great IMHO

Your outlook on football is very disappointing and in broader terms is indicative of what is wrong with football these days.

I can't believe anybody would look upon Chelsea and Emirates Marketing Project with any envy at all. They have their sugar-daddys but at the cost of any sort of integrity and the soul of their club. You develop deluded fans like Chelsea who claim they "want their Chelsea back" but forget that before Abrahmovic they were a ratty little west london club full of Dennis Wise-types.

The day Levy sell Spurs to one of them is they day part of our club dies.

 

[linnet_spur]

Your outlook on football is very disappointing and in broader terms is indicative of what is wrong with football these days.

I can't believe anybody would look upon Chelsea and Emirates Marketing Project with any envy at all. They have their sugar-daddys but at the cost of any sort of integrity and the soul of their club. You develop deluded fans like Chelsea who claim they "want their Chelsea back" but forget that before Abrahmovic they were a ratty little west london club full of Dennis Wise-types.

The day Levy sell Spurs to one of them is they day part of our club dies.

=D>

 

[ledley's knee injections]

Your outlook on football is very disappointing and in broader terms is indicative of what is wrong with football these days.

I can't believe anybody would look upon Chelsea and Emirates Marketing Project with any envy at all. They have their sugar-daddys but at the cost of any sort of integrity and the soul of their club. You develop deluded fans like Chelsea who claim they "want their Chelsea back" but forget that before Abrahmovic they were a ratty little west london club full of Dennis Wise-types.

The day Levy sell Spurs to one of them is they day part of our club dies.

Great post. Agreed 100%!

 

[JPG_357]

But this has very little to do with how well they are doing as owners and Levy is doing as a chairman. As long as it's their perogative that should pretty much be the end of that part of the conversation.

It's everything to do with how they are doing as owners, because they'vew won no more than Birmingham or Boro during their reign, and have won LESS than we did in the previous 12 years.

You have to deal with what you face or leave and let someone with sufficient resources to have a proper go.

 

[JPG_357]

Your outlook on football is very disappointing and in broader terms is indicative of what is wrong with football these days.

I can't believe anybody would look upon Chelsea and Emirates Marketing Project with any envy at all. They have their sugar-daddys but at the cost of any sort of integrity and the soul of their club. You develop deluded fans like Chelsea who claim they "want their Chelsea back" but forget that before Abrahmovic they were a ratty little west london club full of Dennis Wise-types.

The day Levy sell Spurs to one of them is they day part of our club dies.

Fair enough, I think you're wrong but you express your views in moderate language and all credit to you.

It's precisely because I remember how inferior Chelsea were to us that it guts me how superior they are now.

 

[johnola]

Fair enough, I think you're wrong but you express your views in moderate language and all credit to you.

It's precisely because I remember how inferior Chelsea were to us that it guts me how superior they are now.

We are ahead of them in the league and have a ground redevelopment in the pipeline. Chelsea are always one helicopter crash from oblivion.

 

[harr1984]

Fair enough, I think you're wrong but you express your views in moderate language and all credit to you.

It's precisely because I remember how inferior Chelsea were to us that it guts me how superior they are now.

Bar their spending power, how are they so superior? I don't see a great deal of difference between the sides, and the fact we finished ahead of them last year and not much difference between the two sides in the table again this season supports that...

 

[JPG_357]

We are ahead of them in the league and have a ground redevelopment in the pipeline. Chelsea are always one helicopter crash from oblivion.

They have won trophy after trophy after trophy during ENIC's reign. The future is the future, they have had the glory now, glory beyond the wildestdreams of Chelsea fans pre RA

 

[JPG_357]

Bar their spending power, how are they so superior? I don't see a great deal of difference between the sides, and the fact we finished ahead of them last year and not much difference between the two sides in the table again this season supports that...

More lge titles under RA than we have won during 130 years, more CLs than we have won ditto, a host of other trophies, etc.

 

[linnet_spur]

As a billionaires plaything. If he walked out they'd be fudged, the club could go under. I prefer it our way.

 

[jimmyb]

I'm not blaming them, I say quite clearly 'that's their prerogative'. What I'm saying is while they're in charge we'll continue to miss out on the two big trophies, IMHO

While our record in the lesser trophies ain't great.

In 12 years under ENIC one lge cup

Go back twelve years bbefore ENIC, the 'barren years', we won TWICE as many trophies including an FA CUp. So while ENIC have done a good job overall, it's not been great.

Quite apart from the fact that ENIC have only been in charge for 11 whole seasons (not 12), why not pick the number 17 instead of 12? Because it's equally true to say that we only won 2 trophies in the 17 years before ENIC took over. In which case, ENIC still have five years to match or surpass that figure.

It would be more legitimate to make a comparison between the ENIC years and the Sugar years.

And even that wouldn't be a fair comparison. When Sugar took over in 1991, Spurs were still one of the big five and there were no Emirates Marketing Project's or Chelseas with which to contend. By contrast, unlike Sugar (and previous Spurs regimes), ENIC had a huge amount of ground to make up in the most difficult circumstances - against two financially doped clubs and a clutch of other clubs that, as the incumbent top four, enjoyed a huge financial advantage over all other Premier League clubs.

 

[parklane1]

Damn Levy for not being an unscrupulous and highly shady Russian oligarch with billions of brutally plundered rubles to spend on us. Damn him.

Indeed, Levy out.:-"

 

[parklane1]

Your outlook on football is very disappointing and in broader terms is indicative of what is wrong with football these days.

I can't believe anybody would look upon Chelsea and Emirates Marketing Project with any envy at all. They have their sugar-daddys but at the cost of any sort of integrity and the soul of their club. You develop deluded fans like Chelsea who claim they "want their Chelsea back" but forget that before Abrahmovic they were a ratty little west london club full of Dennis Wise-types.

The day Levy sell Spurs to one of them is they day part of our club dies.

Well said =D>

 

[jts1882]

Your outlook on football is very disappointing and in broader terms is indicative of what is wrong with football these days.

I can't believe anybody would look upon Chelsea and Emirates Marketing Project with any envy at all. They have their sugar-daddys but at the cost of any sort of integrity and the soul of their club. You develop deluded fans like Chelsea who claim they "want their Chelsea back" but forget that before Abrahmovic they were a ratty little west london club full of Dennis Wise-types.

The day Levy sell Spurs to one of them is they day part of our club dies.

There is a worse thing. Selling to a leveraged buyout.

With a sugar daddy buyout the fans get to enjoy trophies, albeit not as much as winning them the right way. On a broader view, the sugar daddies put money into football, money that goes to players, coaches and managers.

With the leveraged buy out there are no positives. Large amounts of money are taken out of football and established clubs with long histories are put at risk. Look at Liverpool and how Hicks & Gillett brought them to the edge. United are lucky in that they had built a strong business model under Kenyon and Gill, while Fergie had delivered success on the field to help build the international brand. Luckily for the Glazers they had a willing toadie in the top hat socialist from Govan and he has managed to maintain success despite them leaching £500 million from the club.

If we were to fall to a corporate raider we would not be string enough to survive without severe damage. We only have to look at how long it has taken to recover from Scholar's gambles to see how risky this would be. For this reason, plus distaste for the sugardaddy model, I say "Long live Levy".

P.S. The UEFA financial fair play rules do nothing to protect clubs from leveraged buyouts, a far more harmful thing to the game.

 

[Kenyan Spur]

There is a worse thing. Selling to a leveraged buyout.

With a sugar daddy buyout the fans get to enjoy trophies, albeit not as much as winning them the right way. On a broader view, the sugar daddies put money into football, money that goes to players, coaches and managers.

With the leveraged buy out there are no positives. Large amounts of money are taken out of football and established clubs with long histories are put at risk. Look at Liverpool and how Hicks & Gillett brought them to the edge. United are lucky in that they had built a strong business model under Kenyon and Gill, while Fergie had delivered success on the field to help build the international brand. Luckily for the Glazers they had a willing toadie in the top hat socialist from Govan and he has managed to maintain success despite them leaching £500 million from the club.

If we were to fall to a corporate raider we would not be string enough to survive without severe damage. We only have to look at how long it has taken to recover from Scholar's gambles to see how risky this would be. For this reason, plus distaste for the sugardaddy model, I say "Long live Levy".

P.S. The UEFA financial fair play rules do nothing to protect clubs from leveraged buyouts, a far more harmful thing to the game.

jts1882. Great points. LONG LIVE LEVY.

 

[braineclipse]

There is a worse thing. Selling to a leveraged buyout.

With a sugar daddy buyout the fans get to enjoy trophies, albeit not as much as winning them the right way. On a broader view, the sugar daddies put money into football, money that goes to players, coaches and managers.

With the leveraged buy out there are no positives. Large amounts of money are taken out of football and established clubs with long histories are put at risk. Look at Liverpool and how Hicks & Gillett brought them to the edge. United are lucky in that they had built a strong business model under Kenyon and Gill, while Fergie had delivered success on the field to help build the international brand. Luckily for the Glazers they had a willing toadie in the top hat socialist from Govan and he has managed to maintain success despite them leaching £500 million from the club.

If we were to fall to a corporate raider we would not be string enough to survive without severe damage. We only have to look at how long it has taken to recover from Scholar's gambles to see how risky this would be. For this reason, plus distaste for the sugardaddy model, I say "Long live Levy".

P.S. The UEFA financial fair play rules do nothing to protect clubs from leveraged buyouts, a far more harmful thing to the game.

Great post!

Also very difficult to know what kind of owners you're getting in when you do change. Remember Venkys promising Kaka and great times, then see what actually happened. Hicks and Gillett were also very well received I think when they first took charge of Liverpool. Glazers made it very obvious what they were doing and so were met with resistance from the fans, not that it did the club any good. And from what I remember the previous owners at United had a stronger connection to them than Lewis has to Spurs, I believe they were United fans. When the money was put up though it didn't matter, nor do I think it will matter for Levy and Lewis.

I agree that UEFA/FIFA/The FA should do something to protect the clubs, but it's very difficult to imagine regulation that would stop these kinds of takeovers without breaking free trade regulations etc.

 

[The Portugeezer]

As a billionaires plaything. If he walked out they'd be fudged, the club could go under. I prefer it our way.

Actually they wouldn't be fudged because Abromavich would sell the club too another Billionaire and just continue where he left off. Makes me laugh people think clubs like Chelsea and Emirates Marketing Project will go under. It's wishful thinking.

 

[Spursalot]

Actually they wouldn't be fudged because Abromavich would sell the club too another Billionaire and just continue where he left off. Makes me laugh people think clubs like Chelsea and Emirates Marketing Project will go under. It's wishful thinking.

Like Malaga right?