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thfcsteff said:
Why would you say that?
Have you met him?
Do you know him?
Or does constantly wearing long trousers and cravats give you insights unknown to those of us who sometimes wear shorts?
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Most of us post enough on here for the rest to form a fairly solid impression of them.
 
Bullet said:
Classic. That is very rich coming from you mate, you are by far the most likely poster on G-G to brag about some branded item bought / worn / drunk / driven.
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Then wouldn't my stance on possessions tell you it's not bragging and more to do with enjoying discussing nice things? I don't talk about those things for any reason other than liking talking about them.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Some might accuse me of bias but the way the EU are behaving over these jabs has gone from bad to worse, I am genuinely disgusted by them.
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Well at least Aussies don’t have to worry about EU throwing their toys out the pram any more, as 2 new facilities in Melbourne should soon be producing 1 million doses per week.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03...c-production-of-astrazeneca-vaccine/100020186

Australia's medical regulator has approved the domestic production of the Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine, with the first batches expected to be released "in the next few days."

 
Rorschach said:
I hope we look back on the rise in vaccine nationalism in a global pandemic as another of the stupidest missteps in human history, one that we finally saw was an utterly flawed approach. We should be open-sourcing vaccine production to every part of the planet.
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Boris declares Vaccine War on Europe, coming to a Daily Mail front page soon!
With obligaTory large union jack
 
https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-c...ca-us-vaccine-trial-met-primary-endpoint.html

The AstraZeneca US Phase III trial of AZD1222 demonstrated statistically significant vaccine efficacy of 79% at preventing symptomatic COVID-19 and 100% efficacy at preventing severe disease and hospitalisation.

This interim safety and efficacy analysis was based on 32,449 participants accruing 141 symptomatic cases of COVID-19. The trial had a 2:1 randomisation of vaccine to placebo.

Vaccine efficacy was consistent across ethnicity and age. Notably, in participants aged 65 years and over, vaccine efficacy was 80%.

The vaccine was well tolerated, and the independent data safety monitoring board (DSMB) identified no safety concerns related to the vaccine. The DSMB conducted a specific review of thrombotic events, as well as cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) with the assistance of an independent neurologist. The DSMB found no increased risk of thrombosis or events characterised by thrombosis among the 21,583 participants receiving at least one dose of the vaccine. The specific search for CVST found no events in this trial.

This AstraZeneca-led US Phase III trial included two doses administered at a four week interval. Previous trials have shown that an extended interval of up to 12 weeks demonstrated greater efficacy, which was also supported by immunogenicity data. This evidence suggests administration of the second dose with an interval longer than four weeks could further increase efficacy and accelerates the number of people who can receive their first dose.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1373920635076890624
 
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Rorschach said:
I hope we look back on the rise in vaccine nationalism in a global pandemic as another of the stupidest missteps in human history, one that we finally saw was an utterly flawed approach. We should be open-sourcing vaccine production to every part of the planet.
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Hmm but which block was it that shot the opening shot in the vaccine war?

The UK allowing uk produced vaccines to be made in the EU but the EU not allowing EU created ones to be made in the UK really is actually vile and despicable.

Would like to hear all these pro EU posters actually come out and comment on that, especially as it might slow down us coming out of lockdown.
 
StephenH said:
Boris declares Vaccine War on Europe, coming to a Daily Mail front page soon!
With obligaTory large union jack
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By going after a paper for a headline they may or may not write is a great way of deflecting attention from the real culprit in all this. Wonder why you would do that?

Would it be so no one criticises the one that started this thing?
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Hmm but which block was it that shot the opening shot in the vaccine war?

The UK allowing uk produced vaccines to be made in the EU but the EU not allowing EU created ones to be made in the UK really is actually vile and despicable.

Would like to hear all these pro EU posters actually come out and comment on that, especially as it might slow down us coming out of lockdown.
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Not sure i get the question. As someone voted remain, i don't really care about what the EU do or don't do anymore, we're not in it, we're not returning - it has no bearing on me.

A few thoughts on the issue though:

1) it's mainly bluster from the EU, who need to show they're kicking up a fuss given the rooster up of vaccinations their side
2) don't get the UK produced vaccines vs EU produced vaccines? Majority of AZ for UK is coming from UK, whereas in EU majority of their AZ will come from EU plants. The issue at hand is primarily, the EU plants have fallen behind, so the doses commited to the EU cannot be met by the EU plants. Hence the tit-for-tat on this issue
3) the vile and despicable part, again, not sure i understand. The EU does not mandate where pharma make their goods. That really does need stressing. It depends on cold chain logistics and availability of both ingredients and logistics. That's up to individual private companies. For example, part of Pfizer is made here in UK and shipped abroad
4) If the EU were to stop Pfizer being shipped over, then yes i'd certainly think that's a terrible situation and the EU would be arses for doing it, but again, i don't think it'll come to that, it's mainly bluster. It's no real difference to what the US did with Moderna for example though, hence why we cannot get Moderna over until next month, yet no one seems to mind when the US does it
 
The reality and the impression is quite different. For example, the EU said all existing contracts should be observed. Reading the Sun or listening to people who have an agenda you'd think the EU are holding up exports and taking them away from other nations. They explicitly said: all vaccine contracts should be honoured. What they are simply doing is putting themselves first after this. Is that so bad?

Let's reverse the situation. The UK doesn't have enough vaccine, has fallen way behind its targets because we can't get enough vaccine, but the UK is exporting millions of vaccines a week. Would we say, the UK is despicable and vile for ensuring vaccines we make take care of our elderly first? Or would we celebrate it?
 
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