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Diamond Lights
Alan Hutton
really feel the EU are creating a rod for their own back with their pauses on AZ.
As i highlighted before, the numbers of blood clot related deaths pails in signifcance to the number of covid deaths by several factors (0.001% for clots vs around 3% for COVID).
additional analysis needs to take place but by far, you should not stop vaccinating as you will simply end up with more death. Furthermore, the EMA has already confirmed it should be continued to be used. Really are messing themselves up over this.
As i highlighted before, the numbers of blood clot related deaths pails in signifcance to the number of covid deaths by several factors (0.001% for clots vs around 3% for COVID).
additional analysis needs to take place but by far, you should not stop vaccinating as you will simply end up with more death. Furthermore, the EMA has already confirmed it should be continued to be used. Really are messing themselves up over this.
Legohamster
Ian Walker
The Anti Vax groups are having an absolute field day after the bans and more people will believe it.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Thanks Mods
Did someone hijack your account?
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Nope
Diamond Lights
Alan Hutton
When asked about reports of possible side effects, Johnson said the vaccine was safe to use.
"In the MHRA [the UK’s medicines regulator], we have one of the toughest and most experienced regulators in the world. They see no reason at all to discontinue the vaccination programme," he told reporters on Monday afternoon.
"So we continue to be very confident about the programme and it's great to see it being rolled out at such speed across the UK."
"In the MHRA [the UK’s medicines regulator], we have one of the toughest and most experienced regulators in the world. They see no reason at all to discontinue the vaccination programme," he told reporters on Monday afternoon.
"So we continue to be very confident about the programme and it's great to see it being rolled out at such speed across the UK."
Legohamster
Ian Walker
Germany and France suspend it now
Coming from a remainer, they really are looking quite bitter about this.
Coming from a remainer, they really are looking quite bitter about this.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
It's absolutely pathetic is what it is
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
Does this have anything to do with the EU? France and Germany are sovereign nations free to make their own decisions. Didn't Switzerland's (non-EU) regulator reject the AZ vaccine over a month ago + other nations too? Love how this EU story gives people joy tho.
Legohamster
Ian Walker
Is it just a coincidence they talked it down and blocked it after they hadn’t ordered enough?
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
Half the nations in Europe have not taken any action and still accept the vaccine, seems like people confuse Europe with the EU. Moreover, nations outside the EU were first to raise issues. The Swiss regulator in early Feb, didn't Australia too?
Diamond Lights
Alan Hutton
but those initial complaints were that it didn't work well in the elderly?
Then Scotland and UK produced results that literally smashed that thought process no?
Now it's causing blood clots, perhaps it is, but again based on the KNOWN cases vs KNOWN vaccinations, you're looking at around 0.01% of those cases happening and no idea on the patient info (age, obesity, diabetes, liver etc).
Taking paracetemol has risks, but ultimately the risk of catching covid and getting ill or seriously ill is far more likely than developing a blood clot.
Worst comes to worst, can't they simply vaccinate and give aspirin which is a blood thinner as i recall?
Then Scotland and UK produced results that literally smashed that thought process no?
Now it's causing blood clots, perhaps it is, but again based on the KNOWN cases vs KNOWN vaccinations, you're looking at around 0.01% of those cases happening and no idea on the patient info (age, obesity, diabetes, liver etc).
Taking paracetemol has risks, but ultimately the risk of catching covid and getting ill or seriously ill is far more likely than developing a blood clot.
Worst comes to worst, can't they simply vaccinate and give aspirin which is a blood thinner as i recall?
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
If Johnson says it’s safe then I tend to believe the exact opposite.
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
Indonesia and DRC have halted too, while the EMA (the EU’s MHRA ) say it’s fine. It’s not a political or national thing. Can you imagine the uproar it will cause to halt national vaccine programmes so they must have concerns? It’s a new vaccine whose initial trials were not as detailed as they would have been if it wasnt needed so quickly. I personally would like more information about the mechanisms that could be causing blood clots rather than just stats, after all it’s being given to my loved ones.
No but I think we can say that some European countries haven't handled this well at all, Macron going on TV calling it "Quasi-effective' in older people isn't really going to help with take up even if you later take back the comments as he's done.
Robbo
Paul Walsh
Doubt about the vaxine is probably the worst thing that could happen (apart from a super deadly covid-19 strain emerging, of course).