Chelsea Post-Match Discussion Thread

[El Guepardo]

You really don't think I couldn't have just kicked the ball out for a throw as soon as it happened? Come on?!?

Have you seen how far the ball is behind him as he falls? He seems to have almost left the ball behind him. He might be able to have kicked the ball off but I don't think it would have been as straightforward as you're suggesting.

 

[Modric THFC]

I find it inexplicable because the entire left side of the pitch is wide open. I don't get why he decided to do that maneuver. It looks like our forward players are making runs, expecting a pass. There are risks and there are calculated risks. Sometimes safety is the better option and it does not make us Stoke.

Yet according to some Sherwood sent us out to park the bus!

 

[sc25]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

No way TS got 'found out' yesterday. If that's the case, then a lot of teams - players, managers - get found out when playing at Chelsea. Maybe TS got found out at Norwich, but not at Chelsea. Going in to it, I was pretty sure we - like most everyone before us - would lose yesterday, and we did.

 

[Rossi22]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

The odd thing was that both teams parked the bus. The difference was we did it so Chelsea couldn't punish us, whereas Chelsea did it so they could punish us.

We must've parked it in their half then as I'm sure the majority of the first 56 minutes game was played there.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

We must've parked it in their half then as I'm sure the majority of the first 56 minutes game was played there.

That's Chelsea gameplan - give you the ball and draw you in.

We had no creative player on the pitch and a RB as AM. It might not be 18 yar box defending, but our whole gameplan was to try and nick one from a set piece. We were set-up to not concede, not to take any sort of control of the match.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Maybe Park the bus was the wrong term. We had a defensive setup. 3 centre backs. 2 right backs. A DM and Nabil sat deep too.

TS being found out for me was that he had jabs at AVB about the defensive setup and yesterday he did the same and still the team got battered. The weak mentality is his responsibility. Blaming it on the players and not taking any responsibility himself is ridiculous.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Playing Lennon in the whole was a bonkers decision. One thing he isn't is a number 10. Playing a high line with Dawson at the back was also mental. We should have been 2 down in the first 10 minutes due to it.

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[Modric THFC]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Playing Lennon in the whole was a bonkers decision. One thing he isn't is a number 10. Playing a high line with Dawson at the back was also mental. We should have been 2 down in the first 10 minutes due to it.

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High line? I though we were parking the bus on the goal line? Make your mind up.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

High line? I though we were parking the bus on the goal line? Make your mind up.

If you read my follow up post correcting myself this might make more sense to you. Parking the bus was used to describe what was a defensive setup. We tried to contain Chelsea. We didn't go to attack them. And this is what AVB teams did. But TS took nasty snide jabs at AVB for this when he came in. Now he does it and we still capitulate. The crux of my point.

 

[Jordinho]

I did think that the trio behind Ade was a little lightweight. Would have preferred us to sit deeper and counter. Chadli - Paulinho - Lennon would have been my choice. Even Soldado would have been better than Sigurdsson ATM.

 

[Modric THFC]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

If you read my follow up post correcting myself this might make more sense to you. Parking the bus was used to describe what was a defensive setup. We tried to contain Chelsea. We didn't go to attack them. And this is what AVB teams did. But TS took nasty snide jabs at AVB for this when he came in. Now he does it and we still capitulate. The crux of my point.

Of course we did. Up until the goal **** up we had as many attempts on goal as them, more corners and twice as many crosses.
And AVB's teams kept possession for the sake of it.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Of course we did. Up until the goal **** up we had as many attempts on goal as them, more corners and twice as many crosses.
And AVB's teams kept possession for the sake of it.

We didn't look like scoring and they did.

 

[Modric THFC]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

We didn't look like scoring and they did.

That because we're ****e. But we attacked. Just because we're not very good at creating doesnt we played defensively.
And they never did. They were gifted a goal by either a spurs player or the ref.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

That because we're ****e. But we attacked. Just because we're not very good at creating doesnt we played defensively.
And they never did. They were gifted a goal by either a spurs player or the ref.

Mate we were setup to contain. We had Lennon Sig and Ade who were our only attacking players. We may have had opportunities but TS for me is clearly no upgrade on AVB. I think he has taken us backwards actually. Our philosophy is changing game by game. Our first 11 is a lottery. I do understand that Avb had to go but TS is not the future for our club in my opinion. He comes across as an amateur to me.

 

[Modric THFC]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Mate we were setup to contain. We had Lennon Sig and Ade who were our only attacking players. We may have had opportunities but TS for me is clearly no upgrade on AVB. I think he has taken us backwards actually. Our philosophy is changing game by game. Our first 11 is a lottery. I do understand that Avb had to go but TS is not the future for our club in my opinion. He comes across as an amateur to me.

We had Walker up there playing as an attacker. We had Bentaleb who actually an attacking midfielder. We had Vertonghen and Naughton pushing up at every opportunity and Sandro was definitely not sitting in front of the back four he was pushing up and winning the ball.

You just reading the teamsheet.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

We had Walker up there playing as an attacker. We had Bentaleb who actually an attacking midfielder. We had Vertonghen and Naughton pushing up at every opportunity and Sandro was definitely not sitting in front of the back four he was pushing up and winning the ball.

You just reading the teamsheet.

They are defensive players. There was little attacking or creative spark in the team picked. I am not saying it was the worst selection but it wasn't attractive or attacking as far as selection. Going against everything TS said when he got the job. Thus proving to me that he underestimated the job. Thought it was easy. And now went to a defensive setup and still we got our whooped. Regardless if what anybody says it was individual errors that cost us alot under the last manager. It's the coach's job to iron these errors out. He is responsible. Then he rants at the TV about players. It's his job to motivate them and make them want to succeed. And if they were such a fragile bunch why the eff didn't he spend in January when he could have. He said the squad was good enough. Now he says something else.

 

[Cochise]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Jose's comment about us not being able to hurt them is exactly how I have felt about us all season. Yesterday was probably the worst we have looked, but then TS set the team out to defend and not to attack. Not one player looked capable of creating something, in fact a lot of them looked scared stiff of the ball constantly passing it backwards. We haven't had a clear plan of attack it seems for a while and are reliant upon individual moments of brilliance as opposed to good team movement etc

 

[Baleforce]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

personally I thought the first 50 mins yesterday (crazy first 5 aside) is the best we've looked under TS, its the first time we actually kept hold of the ball

 

[Gutter Boy]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

personally I thought the first 50 mins yesterday (crazy first 5 aside) is the best we've looked under TS, its the first time we actually kept hold of the ball

That's what Chelsea do though. They did exactly the same to Fulham last weekend.

Let teams have the ball in positions they can't do any harm, then hit them when they get themselves out of shape.

It's horrible negative football, but Chelsea deliberately gave us that possession because they knew we'd do nothing with it except ultimately get ourselves into a mess.

 

[Rorschach]

I find it inexplicable because the entire left side of the pitch is wide open. I don't get why he decided to do that maneuver. It looks like our forward players are making runs, expecting a pass. There are risks and there are calculated risks. Sometimes safety is the better option and it does not make us Stoke.

Stupid stupid mistake is the only way to describe it. The slip is careless but the blind pass back into the danger zone is amateur.

That aside you can see Eto is on his bike as soon as Verts slips, almost like he is expecting him to make this crazy pass. Also why did Kaboul stop running? What if Lloris had saved it? He might have been in the right spot for the rebound.