Where? Do we just pay up his contract and release him?
If it was your money, how much would you be willing to lose out on? £10m, £20m?
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Yves Bissouma
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Where? Do we just pay up his contract and release him?
If it was your money, how much would you be willing to lose out on? £10m, £20m?
DeanoAustin
Rafael Van Der Vaart
Wonder if you could do him for breach of contract and sue him maybe? Similar to what Chelsea did with Mutu.
Can't see us doing it though - we'd just try and sell him. Same as I'd do if it was my club. Talk of just kicking him out is a bit mad.
Seriously it was laughing gas. Probably less damaging than alcohol or cigarettes.
It was wrong. He should get a punishment. But lets stop the outrage as most of us have done it at some point. Especially your mother.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Club made the right decision to suspend him imo, what some may not understand is that Bissouma is probably a hero for some youngsters and by doing what he did could give them the wrong impression. He is a sportsman and HAS to set a example to ALL the young fans who watch him.
Think it's Bentancur, but could see Gray coming on as an early sub
Bullet
Colin Calderwood
Agree.
The good thing is, we are playing Leicester, who Gray presumably played a couple of times last year.
Players aswell. It's why i'd love him to have to do aa meetings once a week for the season.
Partly to ensure he doesn't do it again. Partly because it will be a pain in the arse and everyone will know it.
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
AA meetings are for those with addictions or at least dependencies - there's nothing to suggest he is addicted or dependent (and if he were, it would be NA rather than AA). But also AA (or NA or GA or whatever A) doesn't need people attending just to teach them a lesson (although plenty of addicts are expected to attend via court sentencing). And the 'everyone will know it' bit kind of takes away from the Anonymous part.
If he is verging on dependency then I would hope the club can support him to find the right resources, but the club can't (and shoudn't) have attending AA or similar as a disciplinary measure. That's not what it is there for.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Post of the year. Bravo sir, bravo
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Absolutely.
The same with the club.
Setting these standards sets a good example for young fans.
So do Ange's words and open door for redemption.
And, hopefully, so will Bissoumas redemption.
My bad. Thought it was to stop people doing drugs or alcohol or whatever.
If it stops him and others doing it. I thought it might be a good thing.
Forgot everyone is a victim these days and not responsible for their actions.
RunTMC
Steven Caulker
Yep it is. But that program is geared towards addicts with deep seated problems rather than social users. A big part of it is about group support rather than individual punishment. If Bissouma is an addict then yes for sure he should be in it.
But if he’s a social user that does it occasionally off season then maybe a different therapeutic program might be more appropriate.
Either way I think some form of public punishment / reprimand was required for other players and the wider community at large
So you want to see AA or NA spend time and resources helping to punish a non-addict footballer rather than helping a real addict overcome a potentially life threatening addiction?
I want him and our other players not to do it again. It doesn't mean it's taking a place from someone else. It can be private therapy paid for by the club.
Except NOX is a class C drug whereas alcohol and tobacco are legal.
Having a beer on you doesn't carry a maximum 2 year custodial sentence.
Belittling it as "only laughing gas" sends totally the wrong signals to law breaking.
That's fine, but totally different to AA or NA as you originally posted. Doubt he needs therapy though, but if he really needs it then I would hope he gets the support he needs.
Grays_1890
Barry Daines
Cor this thread.
The club for once being one of the most sensible voices in the room for once and Ange.
For me a lines in the sand, we move on now
The club for once being one of the most sensible voices in the room for once and Ange.
For me a lines in the sand, we move on now
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
one thing I will say I so hope it highlights to him to be smarter in who you call friends
He never should have done what he did… that’s being dealt with
But a so called formed of his shared the private footage to the sun. Bissouma has also had issues at Brighton that are well documented with people he was with.
He really needs to reflect ok the company he keeps much better
I fully appreciate he is an overseas player here and it’s never easy but just use the brain a bit more and do less stupid things
He never should have done what he did… that’s being dealt with
But a so called formed of his shared the private footage to the sun. Bissouma has also had issues at Brighton that are well documented with people he was with.
He really needs to reflect ok the company he keeps much better
I fully appreciate he is an overseas player here and it’s never easy but just use the brain a bit more and do less stupid things
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Is there an FA for those addicted to commenting on every post on a forum?
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Fully agreed.
We have a very young squad now too. Not necessarily that there's a risk of them trying laughing gas, but more the clear signal that there are consequences for stepping out of line like this.
We've lost a lot of experience at the club in recent years. And key to Ange's approach is full buy in from the players.
Now up to Bissouma to respond well, in the group, in training and in games when he's back. Hopefully be a learning experience for him that others can learn from too.