Would relegation be that bad?

[Mikey10]

See I see things differently, Frank never really laid into the players - Tudor is not afraid to do that when he feels it’s necessary, that’s setting standards. He also said he believes they will stay up so it’s belief if they put in the effort.

I also had no issues with the formation and players (considering availability) he played against palace. We have no creativity, Porro is the best passer and most likely to create so giving him the freedom at RCB to move forward and find passes made sense, having Sarr sit on Wharton made sense and Archie created our goal so vindicated it slightly. We didn’t look great but we still went 1-0 up and the only sight of goal palace were getting was when individually we messed up

We had 17% possession at home in the first 15 minutes of the game and could have been two down by then. Vicario had to pull off a sharp save in the first 30 seconds and they had a goal (ridiculously) ruled out for a player’s nose and hand being offside. Most of our players also looked like they were running through treacle throughout the game.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

When did Frank publicly tell the players they were a hit?

He did it by seeing them up to not lose every game
You know when he played 8 defenders when we lost 4-1
Didn’t need to say it publicly when you show it structurally and tactically

 

[Mikey10]

He did it by seeing them up to not lose every game
You know when he played 8 defenders when we lost 4-1
Didn’t need to say it publicly when you show it structurally and tactically

Having watched them play in the PL over the last two years I’m not sure he was far wrong tbf.

They’ve failed both under all out-attack and in a defensive set-up.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Having watched them play in the PL over the last two years I’m not sure he was far wrong tbf.

They’ve failed both under all out-attack and in a defensive set-up.

Won more trying to win though

 

[demotw]

We had 17% possession at home in the first 15 minutes of the game and could have been two down by then. Vicario had to pull off a sharp save in the first 30 seconds and they had a goal (ridiculously) ruled out for a player’s nose and hand being offside. Most of our players also looked like they were running through treacle throughout the game.

A sharp save? It was right at him, think my gran should have blocked that by standing still.

As for offside, watch Sarr he actually stopped as he knew he was offside rather then chasing (wrong thing to do btw) but there was cover. Yes they had more possession initially but that changed

 

[totalspurs]

See I see things differently, Frank never really laid into the players - Tudor is not afraid to do that when he feels it’s necessary, that’s setting standards. He also said he believes they will stay up so it’s belief if they put in the effort.

I also had no issues with the formation and players (considering availability) he played against palace. We have no creativity, Porro is the best passer and most likely to create so giving him the freedom at RCB to move forward and find passes made sense, having Sarr sit on Wharton made sense and Archie created our goal so vindicated it slightly. We didn’t look great but we still went 1-0 up and the only sight of goal palace were getting was when individually we messed up

The thing is that after sacking T. Frank we had two choices:
Go for a manager who was going to try a kick the players up the backside approach.
Go for a manager who was going to make them feel good about themselves.

Management is parenting right...

The thing is we need to look at our players and see which approach is going to get the best result at this moment in time.

It's the Dele Alli story all over again.

In hindsight, whilst the first one seems the most obvious, it might be the wrong approach for this group of players and where they are right now.

 

[demotw]

The thing is that after sacking T. Frank we had two choices:
Go for a manager who was going to try a kick the players up the backside approach.
Go for a manager who was going to make them feel good about themselves.

Management is parenting right...

The thing is we need to look at our players and see which approach is going to get the best result at this moment in time.

It's the Dele Alli story all over again.

In hindsight, whilst the first one seems the most obvious, it might be the wrong approach for this group of players and where they are right now.

Agreed but would argue Frank was the arm around shoulder manager, its one of the thing he is known for

 

[Muttley]

The thing is that after sacking T. Frank we had two choices:
Go for a manager who was going to try a kick the players up the backside approach.
Go for a manager who was going to make them feel good about themselves.

Management is parenting right...

The thing is we need to look at our players and see which approach is going to get the best result at this moment in time.

It's the Dele Alli story all over again.

In hindsight, whilst the first one seems the most obvious, it might be the wrong approach for this group of players and where they are right now.

Here's the problem though. What happens if whatever manager type you put in doesn't make one difference to the players? You can have your arm round the shoulder type or you can have your tough barsteward type. You even have the ones who can customise their coaching approach player to player. The problem runs deeper than the 1st team manager at Spurs. It is the culture of the entire company that allows any employee to make coming second acceptable. It is the culture of the entire company that allows less than 100% professionalism and attitude when people come to work. That includes crossing the white linen on a Saturday afternoon and we've seen that for many years including international captains.

That in a nutshell is what needs solving at THFC.

 

[Muttley]

Wonder what the odds are for Spurs winning silverware next season. Either coming first in the Championship or winning the playoff final comes with a trophy right.

That would be 2 trophies in 3 years.

 

[NoLimits01]

Wonder what the odds are for Spurs winning silverware next season. Either coming first in the Championship or winning the playoff final comes with a trophy right.

That would be 2 trophies in 3 years.

Might even get a run in the carabo cup

 

[Baleforce]

Wonder what the odds are for Spurs winning silverware next season. Either coming first in the Championship or winning the playoff final comes with a trophy right.

That would be 2 trophies in 3 years.

You shouldn’t get a trophy for finishing down the league and winning the playoffs imo.

I’d actually do away with the playoffs myself, fix the promotion spots to the top 2/3/4 depending on division. That’s a truer reflection of the season.