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World Cup Group A - Brazil, Cameroon, Croatia, Mexico

Which two teams will progress to the next round?

  • Brazil and Cameroon

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Brazil and Croatia

    Votes: 23 88.5%

  • Brazil and Mexico

    Votes: 3 11.5%

  • Cameroon and Croatia

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Cameroon and Mexico

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Croatia and Mexico

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    26
  • Poll closed .
The ref was a joke.
Sorry, whoever chose that clown should've done their homework. He sent off Brazilian in the QFs of the last World Cup. For me, he should not have been allowed near this game, obviously didn't have a scooby.
As for the disallowed goal, cannot believe more people aren't up in arms about that! Jesus, if that was a foul then let's just say any challenge on the keeper within 3 or 4 yards is illegal and be done with it. Good GHod!!!!! Pathetic. IO felt very sorry for Croatia today. Modric was excellent.
 
May be it sounds a bit paranoic, but I can see FIFA holding responsibility on yesterday's result. It's quite unstable situation in Brazil and only success of their national team will hold situation under control. The ref could have been easily ordered to help Brazil in disputable cases (although incident with penalty can't be even named as disputable).
Preparations to the WC, the opening ceremony, first match and especially its referring have been very sad. Worse than South Africa.
 
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scaramanga said:
First thing this world cup has done is remind me just how much I dislike Neymar. He's a divey, cheatey little ****er - wouldn't be out of place in the Argentina or Chelsea teams.
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Absolutely aggravating to the max. From wincing like a big blouse pre-match because the wind hit his hallowed ankle to the wanly haircut to the general wackiness of his play to the absolutely pathetic run up for the pen, yes, I wholeheartedly agree.
 
The refereeing decisions are no different to what we see and complain about in the PL week after week.

Chelsea losing at home to West Brom, Ramires goes in and falls, penalty. Given immediately. Protests from WBA players, yellow cards given out, goal scored. Phew. Everyone relieved.

Arsenal losing at home to, say, Norwich. Need a goal, desperately. Player falls, penalty. 1-1. Then Arsenal score twice more in the next ten minutes through their own good play.

Brazil's 3rd goal was very well taken. The damage is done in the 2nd goal, which is then followed up by a challenge, if you can call it that, on the keeper which is given.

It's the same weak officiating from people who are either not up to the task or instructed to give these decisions. The Japanese ref isn't even one of Asia's best, the standard of refereeing in the Asian CL is terrible, there is a heavy Brazilian influence in the J-League... so why choose a sub-par Japanese ref for the opening game when all eyes are on Sao Paulo? surely it will only ever suit the hosts. The deferential attitude towards green and gold, the home crowd pressure, the expectation, and the underlying need to pacify an anti-world cup (spending, not tournament) public.

You just know that decision would not be given to Croatia. There was an opportunity for Fred to dive/ref to give in and it was taken. A reminder that a football match is not just two teams of 11. Sad.
 
Danners9 said:
The refereeing decisions are no different to what we see and complain about in the PL week after week.

Chelsea losing at home to West Brom, Ramires goes in and falls, penalty. Given immediately. Protests from WBA players, yellow cards given out, goal scored. Phew. Everyone relieved.

Arsenal losing at home to, say, Norwich. Need a goal, desperately. Player falls, penalty. 1-1. Then Arsenal score twice more in the next ten minutes through their own good play.

Brazil's 3rd goal was very well taken. The damage is done in the 2nd goal, which is then followed up by a challenge, if you can call it that, on the keeper which is given.

It's the same weak officiating from people who are either not up to the task or instructed to give these decisions. The Japanese ref isn't even one of Asia's best, the standard of refereeing in the Asian CL is terrible, there is a heavy Brazilian influence in the J-League... so why choose a sub-par Japanese ref for the opening game when all eyes are on Sao Paulo? surely it will only ever suit the hosts. The deferential attitude towards green and gold, the home crowd pressure, the expectation, and the underlying need to pacify an anti-world cup (spending, not tournament) public.

You just know that decision would not be given to Croatia. There was an opportunity for Fred to dive/ref to give in and it was taken. A reminder that a football match is not just two teams of 11. Sad.
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totally agree with every word
 
It's already been said, but a catalogue of errors from the Referee handed Brazil those 3 points, the occasion really got to him.

I don't get the Neymar yellow, it the Ref has blown for a foul he has to have seen Neymar swinging his elbow at Modric face in which case it's a straight red by the laws of the game. After that every one of Brazils goals was contentious.

I'd be pretty ****ed off if I was Croatia.
 
I don't think the ref was bent, I think it's just a different style to what we are used to, and different values

did neymar swing an elbow with intent to harm
 
I don't think the ref was bent, I think it's just a different style to what we are used to, and different values

did neymar swing an elbow with intent to harm or did he just have his arm up to try and out leverage Modric, I'm happy with a yellow there

as for the pen, lovren had a hand on his shoulder, yes Fred needed minimum encouragement to drop but there was no need to give him any

Brazil were the better side, Croatia conceded 2 soft goals in addition to the penalty

incompetence seems more likely than corruption
 
There was contact on Fred, but it's a contact sport. It wasn't a FOUL in the box so it's not a penalty. Whilst I don't think it was corrupt, I just feel people like to argue against teams/people they don't like, so it's no surprise. Brazil were better than Croatia. The way Brazil got through the **** poor challenge in midfield for the equalizer was embarrassing. I still think Croatia will qualify from the group, they have enough quality. I don't think Mexico or Cameroon will be any bother.
 
galeforce said:
I don't think the ref was bent, I think it's just a different style to what we are used to, and different values

did neymar swing an elbow with intent to harm
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Just seen that Neymar now has 33 goals for Brazil. The same level as Ronaldinho and one less than Jairzinho and Rivaldo. He's only 22!

still find it amazing that Ronaldo never broke the all time record.
 
Mumorn said:
There was contact on Fred, but it's a contact sport. It wasn't a FOUL in the box so it's not a penalty. Whilst I don't think it was corrupt, I just feel people like to argue against teams/people they don't like, so it's no surprise. Brazil were better than Croatia. The way Brazil got through the **** poor challenge in midfield for the equalizer was embarrassing. I still think Croatia will qualify from the group, they have enough quality. I don't think Mexico or Cameroon will be any bother.
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it is a contact sport, but you pull on someone's shoulder like that you are making it easy for the ref to give, no need to put your hands there
 
Not a red for me.

Brazil got the pen unjustly but the ref simply got it wrong. The disallowed goal was debatable. I thought it was a foul

Brazil are a pragmatic counter attacking side these days. You used to just fall in love with them with the players they had, but now it's hard to really connect with them. They are much better against better sides where they can counter. I think they will probably win it still.

Neymar is a bit like Joffrey from GoT. ****y little sh*t. But I am warming to him a little. He is incredibly good at going past players for fun.
 
diego_maradona said:
Not a red for me.

Brazil got the pen unjustly but the ref simply got it wrong. The disallowed goal was debatable. I thought it was a foul

Brazil are a pragmatic counter attacking side these days. You used to just fall in love with them with the players they had, but now it's hard to really connect with them. They are much better against better sides where they can counter. I think they will probably win it still.

Neymar is a bit like Joffrey from GoT. ****y little sh*t. But I am warming to him a little. He is incredibly good at going past players for fun.
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On what grounds?

The Laws clearly state if you raise an arm to strike an opponent its a red card.

Neymar looked straight at Modric not the ball, raised his arm and struck Modric, it wasn't until that point that he even looked at the flight of the ball, it wasn't accidental contact at all so therefore red card.
 
Not a red for me. They are both looking at each other. 0.1 seconds later Neymar lifts his arm to protect himself (he always does this as he is a short, light player) the same as Modric does against bigger players... but because Modric is tiny as well he took it in the throat and it looks bad.
 
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