Well we've had worse teams and still managed to beat City in recent years.
As they say, football is a funny old game....
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Welcome Ange: To Dare is to Didgeridoo
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As they say, football is a funny old game....
Legohamster
Ian Walker
For me it's time for a change
I can't see him getting to grips with what is needed in the PL.
Our away record is abysmal.
I can't see him getting to grips with what is needed in the PL.
Our away record is abysmal.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
IMO a change is the worst thing we could do
Changing the manager doesn’t change the players
Mrs Vert
Pascal Chimbonda
True. I guess we shall see...........
Legohamster
Ian Walker
These payers are better than what we are seeing, they don't buy in it seems or have the ability to do what is asked of them, I'm not sure many players in the world can
Pep/Klopp/Arteta have been the most successful managers in the league recently, they all have a solid core, we just don't like interested in doing this.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
It does change the system though, defend deeper and with more players and we could have a more solid unit overnight.
DeanoAustin
Jimmy McCormick
To be fair to him, he made the changes today that he was criticised for not doing against Brighton. And he arguably proved his point or at least provided evidence to support it.
We were so far off it as a team, in terms of desire and application, that a big change in personnel and formation made no difference.
Unfortunately for Ange, responsibility for that sits at his door.
And how long did it take them to get that solid core? It's still early days.
Don't get me wrong, I don't see it either - but I haven't 'seen it' for any game against them for years yet often especially at home we win
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Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
These players struggle to defend and we were deep today
That’s not that the answer at all
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
It sits with him but the accountability has to be taken by the players
Another meek and tepid bottle job
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
People take far too much notice of the crap on the sidelines. I have seen many a crap manager giving it large.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
bring the wingers back and there isn't always a man over for the opposition out wide
sit the MF deeper and there are more bodies in there for second balls
play long once in a while and the opposition can't sit on the half way line knowing we are going to faff around in our box
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
I agree with the last part
The rest isn’t the answer at all imo
We should not be playing to defend
We should defend as part of the attacking system
But when your defenders fall over loads (VDV today) or can’t pass (Udogie again) and then you have physically weaker players like Porro you have issues
If we played 4 centre backs like Arsenal I’d agree. But we don’t have 4 in the squad
I'm all for discussing Anges mistakes etc but finding the little clamour of sack Ange comments after every defeat way OTT. There is no magic bullet out there and we aren't backed by an oil state so no matter who the manager is there is going to be periods of pain and it's going to take time.
Sacking him would just mean we have to reset, wait another two years for someone philosophy to be properly embedded, whilst getting in his players only to then discover we probably still aren't good enough to challenge for titles and start the merry go round again. Or alternatively we could get in a Conte type again, that would be more fun
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Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
no, you attack from your defensive system
first and foremost you have to stop the opposition playing, you take opportunities away from them, you put them in positions where they make the mistakes
we do the opposite
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Why does the 10 men but get added to try to make the point even more…
I'm not convinced he will be the answer but I'm willing to give him time and the chance to prove me wrong. If we wet the bed every time a manager goes through a couple of bad games and sack them we will never find a manager who is the answer.I'm all for discussing Anges mistakes etc but finding the little clamour of sack Ange comments after every defeat way OTT. There is no magic bullet out there and we aren't backed by an oil state so no matter who the manager is there is going to be periods of pain and it's going to take time.
Sacking him would just mean we have to reset, wait another two years for someone philosophy to be properly embedded, whilst getting in his players only to then discover we probably still aren't good enough to challenge for titles and start the merry go round again. Or alternatively we could get in a Conte type again, that would be more fun
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
We would never have a manager
I mean this isn’t new
The way we folded today is sexy in a nutshell
Issue is fans are reactionary to every result by default
We win midweek and against Villa (which I think we will ) and suddenly it’s a different outlook