Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
We lack ball carriers and we can’t play son and Johnson at the same time
They don’t stretch the opposition in the way you describe
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They don’t stretch the opposition in the way you describe
Bishop
Nick Barmby
Salah is also about 57 years old. His years of directly taken on his man have ended so he flipping well did it when he was Johnson's age. He did it until about 2 years ago.
But you're right his movement is completely next level. He's a genuine world class player.
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
Rubbish.
Legohamster
Ian Walker
Worse PPG than a man with Clive Wilson at Left Back
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glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
I actually think Udogie injury came from what you are talking about, he made a sprint expecting the ball, it never came, he has to stop his sprint and snap.
Same with the Werner one late in the game, werner has the whole of their half to in run into, he makes the run, maddison delays the pass, bang werner is offside.
There was also one in the first half, crowd area around the dugout and a spurs player has a risky pass forward to I think Bentancur but plays it back (which was not risk free either) and ange berates him and motions the pass he wanted played.
I think runs are being made, I just don't think we are trying hard enough to find them.
Mikey10
Pedro Mendes
Dear oh dear.
tommysvr
Vedran Corluka
Yes. The year Arsenal won the league with 78 points. Our 66 points last season would have seen us finished 3rd that season.
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
1. A lot of PSR room that we are not using, hence us being the least ambitious team in the league.
2. I'm by no means an an expert on this, I think it is @Lilbaz who is (though I could be wrong). However, as (I think it was) Libaz pointed out to me, transfer fees spent on youth players are not factored in for PSR. Neither are wages paid to youth players. PSR doesn't govern the overall amount of financial loss over a three year period. It instead governs the allowed loss over a 3 year period only for specific things only (you have to keep first team wages and player transfer fees and agents fees (amortised over length of contract) to a certain percentage of turnover.
3. I again go back to the fact that we have been poorly run over a number of years, the buck has to stop at the head honcho for this. Also we actually CAN register more players. We could register another 3 players over the age of 21 in our PL squad and that is even if we continue registering Regulion and all 4 keepers (quite a few clubs register only 3 keepers). We have gone into the season with a squad that is too small and too young for the expected workload. We're now reaping what we sowed.
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
We also went long quite a few times yesterday.
Lemonade Money
Dimitar Berbatov
Glad to hear.
The system creates overloads (i.e. lots of our players in one space of field, in theory outnumbering the opponents), one of the downsides of that is it also creates congestion, that kind of congestion suits players like Deki, don't think it suits Son or Johnson
Son isn't the reason we concede 2 goals at home to Wolves, 6 goals at home to Liverpool. Least of Ange's problems
This is fans falling for the same fallacy Ange does, you will not win games consistently if you are unwilling to minimize the opportunities you give to the opposition, and this is highlighted by one crazy stat -> Spurs have not won a single game in the PL by a one goal margin all season, what that means is once the game is close, we don't win.
A point i made in response to someone saying our high GD but poor results are intriguing - basically if we are on it we are hard to play against, very aggressive, get lots of bodies in danger areas....so we come up against another team a bit off it and we can easily smash a few goals in.
In those tense, tight, tactical PL battles where the opposition are able to handle our swarms forward and try to hit us with attacks, we so often make the crucial mistake that decides the game.
As you say - where the game is tight we invariably lose. Where it's uneven in our favour we tend to put teams to the sword good and proper (very rarely we batter a team chance wise and don't get the win). We also rarely get absolutely trollied ourselves although when we do like v. Liverpool we van look particularly clueless and naive based on how we play....
Mikey10
Pedro Mendes
Another couple of interesting stats, both copyright of today’s View From the Lane podcast:
We have won two out of the seven games this season in which we have had 65% or more of the possession, those two games being against United and Everton.
In the 2024 calendar year of games, we will finish either 9th or 10th on points amassed, depending on whether United beat N ewcastle tonight (United will finish above us should they win this evening).
1 thing i'm not sure about is when the u21 players are no longer u21 if the amortisation kicks in. Odobert doesn't count towards psr now but when he gets to 21 will he? His wages should.
Could be an issue for chelsea in the next couple of years if it does.
Yep to both, which is the whole question
- Everyone keeps focusing on -> will we do better with players back from injury and if you upgrade player x? i.e. buy a DM or a Winger. The answer is probably yes, because we will have a few more games where we put someone to the sword
The real question is
- Can you play a system that inevitably concedes quality chances to the opposition and still win at the right rate?
So far, the answer is no and that's the concern. brick sides can just sit deep and wait for their moment (that we will give them)
fernadez
Jermaine Jenas
Thar question is the one that bothers me. Games are most often decided by tight margins, mistakes, a moment.
I don't see how we can ever have sustainable performances when our success is down to whether the opposition takes the chances we give them. At the game v Wolves and Porro pumping his fist after making last gasp blocks and challenges. All our defending is last gasp, a vital block or challenge rather than a team carving us open (except by a long ball over the top).
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
I’m pretty sure you can’t change your amortisation
So it’s set at the acquisition and write off period
So an under 21 will always be outside even when they go over 21
The amortisation is over the length of the contract. A £50m player on a 5 year contract will have an amortisation of £10m a year. So by rights once the player is no longer u21 the amortisation should be taken into account for psr.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Yep
But it’s capital
You can’t change your method
So the method that you have at the point of acquiring the capital can’t change
That’s the rules under IFRS16 - I appreciate football is odd. But for accounting the rule is fixed at the start and not variable
There may be some quirk but I doubt it because you would have an asset nor on the balance sheet for a few years then on it but you already own him
It’s very specific but for sure, you can’t change it under normal account practise and international standards
I’m not a finance guy but I did work with the government commercial finance team for 3 years on capital projects and acquisitions so was well read is IFRS16 at the time
Nobodys changing it.
Amortisation for u21 players doesn't count towards psr. For over 21s it does count.
It's just unclear if you have bought a player that is say 20. For the first year his amortisation won't count towards psr but once he is 21 does it? It should. He's not u21 anymore. His wages should count aswell.