Welcome Ange: To Dare is to Didgeridoo

[monkeybarry]

Did anyone actually watch the video?

There is nothing contentious or aggressive there, just facts.

It’s not an attack, it’s analysis.

That's my view too.

There is a valid point though - "don't become the story". He's made a rod for his own back with the "I always win something in my second season", "are you not entertained" and "I won't change mate" mantras.
Those are great if you win. You look like a fool when you don't.

Amorin and Pep should be the story.
Amorin should be under the microscope, analysing how he's going to change the ship.
Pep - his form is worse than Ange I think! But his narrative has been to say little and to talk "finding different solutions".

There isn't a team playing wonderful football, so a struggle has to be the narrative. Us being the narrative was avoidable. Ange is happy to talk the talk when things are hopeful - he needs to put his gonads where his mouth is when it's hard too. (I've really should rephrase that!)

The Deki interview is fascinating. (Future manager right there)
I really hope everyone can pull together and make the tweaks needed. And part of this is about learning game smarts - we are very inexperienced at this level across the team and coaching set up.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Poor old Ange....spending Christmas Day on his jack jones

 

[metalgear]

I'd take a good cup run and top 7 this season - I think that's realistic and accounts for the injuries. Underachievement in a normal season - par when accounting for the injuries.

A cup final and qualifying for EL is what I expected at the start of the season.
The shadow of form being atrocious after that first magnificent spell is something I just can't shake. If we go the second half of this season magnificently, then I'll accept it as all part of the building work.

Ange could have but did not learn from last years injuries. Made it worse by not introducing players like spence and bergvall earlier, and the rushed introduction of vdv and Romero who immediately got injured again, which probably makes the recovery now much worse

 

[Finney Is Back]

I was thinking about it the other way around today: could Ange do what Slot’s done at Liverpool? I think absolutely yes. That squad would suit him very well.

Not to take anything away from Slot, he’s done an amazing job so far and I’ll be very shocked if they don’t win the league. But anyone who thinks we would be in or close to Liverpool’s position because of Slot is missing a huge part of the puzzle. As you say, their squad is built for winning things already. We are paying the price for 4 years of bad decisions and having to completely rebuild. No manager in football could bring us the immediate success we all crave.

4 years only?!?

 

[Baleforce]

Poor old Ange....spending Christmas Day on his jack jones

I hope he got visited by the ghosts of full backs passed and changing future last night.

Also hope he has a lovely day.

He won’t be on his own all day, we have a game tomorrow, surely we are training today… we are on a disastrous run of form… please…

 

[DeanoAustin]

I hope he got visited by the ghosts of full backs passed and changing future last night.

Also hope he has a lovely day.

He won’t be on his own all day, we have a game tomorrow, surely we are training today… we are on a disastrous run of form… please…

Not sure that David Kerslake, Mitchell Thomas, Paul Stalteri, Paolo Tramezzani, Terry Fenwick, Guy Butters and Pat van den Hauwe are gonna be able to help.

 

[Baleforce]

Not sure that David Kerslake, Mitchell Thomas, Paul Stalteri, Paolo Tramezzani, Terry Fenwick, Guy Butters and Pat van den Hauwe are gonna be able to help.

the spelling was intentional, but I guess if I have to explain the joke...

 

[Bishop]

I was thinking about it the other way around today: could Ange do what Slot’s done at Liverpool? I think absolutely yes. That squad would suit him very well.

Not to take anything away from Slot, he’s done an amazing job so far and I’ll be very shocked if they don’t win the league. But anyone who thinks we would be in or close to Liverpool’s position because of Slot is missing a huge part of the puzzle. As you say, their squad is built for winning things already. We are paying the price for 4 years of bad decisions and having to completely rebuild. No manager in football could bring us the immediate success we all crave.

Ange's version of Liverpool would be more like Klopps. They'd go gangbusters and tear up the league, they'd concede more for sure but possibly score even more.

I do think Ange's system would work very well with better players, Liverpools in particular. I largely think the difficult Ange has and will continue to have is the relative lower quality of player he has here. The question I keep asking is will we ever recruit the required quality to match his footballing intentions.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Ange's version of Liverpool would be more like Klopps. They'd go gangbusters and tear up the league, they'd concede more for sure but possibly score even more.

I do think Ange's system would work very well with better players, Liverpools in particular. I largely think the difficult Ange has and will continue to have is the relative lower quality of player he has here. The question I keep asking is will we ever recruit the required quality to match his footballing intentions.

I think we will
But I also say it needs time
We have spent plenty without the CL income so I assume that will continue

 

[Bishop]

I think we will
But I also say it needs time
We have spent plenty without the CL income so I assume that will continue

I have no belief in ENIC tbh. In terms of buying young technical players maybe, but we need to not waste time. Quick evaluations have to be made and the guys we don't think will make it swapped out for newer blood and it has to be done on a consistent basis. Madison isn't looking like he cuts it, Kulu does. It might make sense to sell Maddison ok the short terms and bring at least 1 rotation/competition sub for Kulu.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I have no belief in ENIC tbh. In terms of buying young technical players maybe, but we need to not waste time. Quick evaluations have to be made and the guys we don't think will make it swapped out for newer blood and it has to be done on a consistent basis. Madison isn't looking like he cuts it, Kulu does. It might make sense to sell Maddison ok the short terms and bring at least 1 rotation/competition sub for Kulu.

That is what we did this summer
I think we have a lot of people forgetting how many we shipped out in the summer
And we still have plenty on loan, all I assume apart from Brian Gil we think can make it here at some point
We have to replace the experience asap to build that back up
3/4 players imo
And we have to be willing to sell some too
Gil for sure
One of the Cms
Richarlison
Solomon
Maybe a bigger name player
Possibly Vicario if we can get an even better suited keeper
Everything has to be smart