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Welcome Ange: To Dare is to Didgeridoo

Robspur12 said:
And they never let it slip to 2-3 before going on to win 3-4. Their performance was more controlled.

I'm still Ange in until the end of the season but at the moment I can't see him lasting beyond that. In the end it's a cliche but nonetheless true. It's results that will determine his longevity.
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Bournemouth okay a great Hugh energy football
Almost like they don’t play mid week and look fresh in these games
 
People talk about managing in the Dutch league and poo poo it but when it comes to Ange it’s like he worked miracles in a tin pot league in Scotland. I get that sometimes you have to be brave but is there anything that the Ange backers have seen in his tactical awareness and managerial skills at Tottenham that keep wanting you to back him. Forget the stability idiom.

I just don’t understand how you could want to back a manager who is inept tactically, stubborn and doesn’t look like he knows how to defend. It’s no good saying it’s attacking football, there are managers out there that get the very best of average players, play good football and know how to organise a defence. Surely that is the foundations of backing a manager through difficult times. Not just for the sake of saying stability.

He’s under pressure and he knows it, his press conferences of late have been cringy.
 
Robspur12 said:
And they never let it slip to 2-3 before going on to win 3-4. Their performance was more controlled.

I'm still Ange in until the end of the season but at the moment I can't see him lasting beyond that. In the end it's a cliche but nonetheless true. It's results that will determine his longevity.
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At the risk of inviting ridicule, they had Kepa in goal and healthy subs, not Forster and several kids.
 
I wanted him to stay and I was all up for giving him 3 seasons and as others have mentioned sick of changing managers.

However I am wobbling because I'm not sure his stubbornness and refusal of shifting things slightly is concerning me. People can keep banging on we are still in all the cups. But seriously come Jan. I wouldn't be shocked if we are out of everything. Then what?

We maybe sticking with the wrong manager......I don't know
 
Mrs Vert said:
I wanted him to stay and I was all up for giving him 3 seasons and as others have mentioned sick of changing managers.

However I am wobbling because I'm not sure his stubbornness and refusal of shifting things slightly is concerning me. People can keep banging on we are still in all the cups. But seriously come Jan. I wouldn't be shocked if we are out of everything. Then what?

We maybe sticking with the wrong manager......I don't know
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Would rather we stuck with Conte or Jose?
 
NaijaSpurs said:
Would rather we stuck with Conte or Jose?
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If we are going back in time I would have like us to stuck with Poch and have Levy do as he asked.
But we didn't so here we are.

No I wouldn't want to stick with Conte or Jose but again if Levy backed them maybe we would have won something.

Sticking with Ange despite what we are seeing is like sticking with Conte and Jose no? Is it just cos we are exciting to watch?

Is it possible we maybe sticking with the wrong manger, that's all I'm asking?
 
Mrs Vert said:
If we are going back in time I would have like us to stuck with Poch and have Levy do as he asked.
But we didn't so here we are.

No I wouldn't want to stick with Conte or Jose but again if Levy backed them maybe we would have won something.

Sticking with Ange despite what we are seeing is like sticking with Conte and Jose no? Is it just cos we are exciting to watch?

Is it possible we maybe sticking with the wrong manger, that's all I'm asking?
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Well with Conte and Jose we did not have to play with our number 2 keeper or an 18 year old midfielder in central defence.

Our squad still needs improving. I for one am still behind Ange, but each to their own
 
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thfcsteff said:
Brighton was a terrible second-half, players switched off. No argument. Chelsea? A combination of injuries, meeting a side with what, 400 million or so on the pitch and bench, plus two brainfart mistakes much like Forster yesterday, which in themselves are as much about fatigue as anything else. Of our other defeats this season, every one bar Palace have been down to single errors and an inability to take chances (I consider Palace a poor performance just like second-half at Brighton).

BTW, what did you think we were trying to do at 3-0 up yesterday?
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To answer your specific question, i thought we were playing our usual way. Passing forwards to try and score more goals. Would likely have been fine and comfortable but for Forster doing what he did and then the players crumbled, especially the defenders.

We have found various ways to lose 8 games out of 17, which is simply not acceptable for a club of our size, regardless of injuries. Those injuries are not an excuse considering there isn't much difference when the missing players are there anyway...
 
NaijaSpurs said:
Well with Conte and Jose we did not have to play with our number 3 keeper or an 18 year old midfielder in central defence.

Our squad is needs improving. I for one am still behind Ange, but each to their own
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Agreed. I'm just saying I'm wobbling. Mainly cos I would like him tweak things a little and he said he isn't going to
 
What do people see different in Ange's tactical strategy and approach compared to the following:

- Roberto Martinez
- Marcelo Bielsa
- Brendan Rodgers
- Russell Martin


This is a genuine question and i'd like genuine responses please
 
NaijaSpurs said:
Would rather we stuck with Conte or Jose?
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Depends what you consider more important, league finishes or having a really positive football ethos and a really lovely bunch of footballers who all get along and seem like nice guys.

Doing things the "right" way > actually doing well and improving.

I don't think Conte is devastated not being here whilst he's in the title hunt with Napoli whilst we're 11th in the table. I doubt he's regretted chewing out the board and medical staff either!
 
glorygloryeze said:
What do people see different in Ange's tactical strategy and approach compared to the following:

- Roberto Martinez
- Marcelo Bielsa
- Brendan Rodgers
- Russell Martin


This is a genuine question and i'd like genuine responses please
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You forgot to add Pep in there
Remember he is copying pep you know
 
Raziel said:
We need to add quality, and more ready for now

But Ange needs to do his part

- Needs to manage the team better, we can't fudging build a squad where every season you will have 10 players our with injuries, no level of planning/investment can cover that

Said it a few weeks ago, January will say a lot more about what the club thinks/expects from Ange than any fun/pundit speculation

- Buy 1-2 first team ready players is the biggest vote of confidence we can see
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Surely said vote of confidence would have been shown in the summer, no?
 
glorygloryeze said:
Nah..
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The experts said it last year don’t forget
The same ones who are being quoted now
I wouldn’t call them experts as nearly all of them haven’t managed a Football team
But nonetheless that was the comments last year he had to deal with
I guess he is still copying Pep in losing games
 
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