Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Young up and coming british players no longer good enough for 'pool?
Only this time, it would actually be a good buy...
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Young up and coming british players no longer good enough for 'pool?
Only this time, it would actually be a good buy...
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indianspur
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Ferdinand, A Cole, Lampard.....Carrick and Scholes played in 2008...Terry practically played 90% of Chelsea's CL run
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Not what Im saying at all. You seem determined to pick at my posts tonight
At Swansea, on a shoe string, loaning a Tottenham academy player was a risk but turned out a stroke of genius.
At Liverpool expectations and resources are significantly different. I would be amazed if they thought a Tottenham academy player would be a top transfer target. They will be aiming higher.
This is by no means a judgement of Caulkers ability or potential, simply his standing in the game vs their ambitions and likely level of target
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Because, it seems, Martinez turned them down...
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Not what Im saying at all. You seem determined to pick at my posts tonight
At Swansea, on a shoe string, loaning a Tottenham academy player was a risk but turned out a stroke of genius.
At Liverpool expectations and resources are significantly different. I would be amazed if they thought a Tottenham academy player would be a top transfer target. They will be aiming higher.
This is by no means a judgement of Caulkers ability or potential, simply his standing in the game vs their ambitions and likely level of target
I wasn't picking at your post, more picking at 'liverpool's' transfer strategy
(by 'liverpool's' i of course mean KKK)
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
I can only say what I think they would do - who knows in reality?
I think its near certain they would look for more that Caulker. Also, as I think about it, Joe Cole might have a future there after all...
I think its near certain they would look for more that Caulker. Also, as I think about it, Joe Cole might have a future there after all...
Tottenham Dave
Erik Edman
That 'statement' on RAWK is cringeworthy. It's tow the party line or be shot basically. That place is like East Germany before the wall came down, complete with Stasi moderators.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Why dont they want him? were they expecting Guardiola or something lol
Best club in the world and the best fans, they should have who they want
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
David Johnson ex LFC on SSN saying they have wanted Rodgers all along and that the impression that FSG dont know what they are doing is a false one
hahahahaha yeh ok, bell end
hahahahaha yeh ok, bell end
chancer
Gudni Bergsson
I suppose we should all stick our necks on the block and say how we think it's going to work out for Rodgers.
My opinion is that it will all be a bit too much for him at this point in his career, and that it won't work.
He may well survive a season or two, but I really fear for the guy if Liverpool lose 3 or 4 on the trot. The pressure could snowball very quickly. I also fear that "one season syndrome" will prove correct. And also let's remember that his sights have to change from dealing with Ôé¼2m footballers to dealing with Ôé¼20m footballers. That's a big leap, even if it turns out he's not the one buying those players. If it turns out he is the one overseeing transfers - that's a bit unclear at the moment - that's even more pressure again.
I wish him well because he's a very likeable chap, and I don't hate Liverpool as much as others here, but my prediction: Fail.
My opinion is that it will all be a bit too much for him at this point in his career, and that it won't work.
He may well survive a season or two, but I really fear for the guy if Liverpool lose 3 or 4 on the trot. The pressure could snowball very quickly. I also fear that "one season syndrome" will prove correct. And also let's remember that his sights have to change from dealing with Ôé¼2m footballers to dealing with Ôé¼20m footballers. That's a big leap, even if it turns out he's not the one buying those players. If it turns out he is the one overseeing transfers - that's a bit unclear at the moment - that's even more pressure again.
I wish him well because he's a very likeable chap, and I don't hate Liverpool as much as others here, but my prediction: Fail.
inkpenspur
Allan Nielsen
It would seem certain that FSG want to play Moneyball with their Director of Statistics role in the much vaunted (and strangely underused) three tier management structure! Wonder how this will pan out?
i think he will do reasonably well but will not be able to achieve the targets that the fans expect (ie top 4) well, he will be hounded out before he get's the chance to.
first season will be hit and miss, second season top 6, 3rd season top 6 (if not fired) 3rd season sacked
I don't think the Moneyball style management is suited to football beyond a certain level (based on my limited knowledge of what it actually is) i think Liverpool are setting themselves up for a potential lolfest the way they seem to be approaching the different types of DoF - we have shown how hard it is to get it right with just the one
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braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Seeing as I'm a firm believer in chaos theory and random chance I think it's very possible that he could end up both as a success and as a failure.
I think it's a good move by Liverpool, he is one of the better managers they could get I think, at least with their current structure.
Perhaps the most likely way for this to fail would be either through some argument between him and a Van Gaal character, or if he isn't allowed to bring in the players he wants. He seems very capable of identifying and getting the player types he wants for his system and game plan to work. If one of their possibly many directors don't allow Rodgers that freedom I can see some real problems there.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
This probably sounds overly optimistic, but for me one of the best application I know of of Moneyball in football has been implemented by Daniel Levy.
The entire concept was to get value for money, sell players that were overrated and ineffective, bring in cheaper players that are underrated, but effective. Buy cheaply when possibly, sell expensively when possible. Exploit that others are making mistakes in the transfer market. For baseball it was and is reasonably possible to make those ratings fairly well based on stats, football is a different game and although some stats certainly help there needs to be some real scouting and planning, taking your game plan and system of play into account with the manager of course.
Although we haven't always succeeded in the scouting area, nor in the game plan area because some of our football men haven't delivered, the overall plan has worked very well for us.
