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Bedfordspurs said:
Has it really?
Lo Celsos vs Chelsea which I’d argue all day wasn’t wrong. Playing it back in slow mo made it look much much worse
Others?
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Mate there was one weekend I think Norwich were involved when they overturned 4 ref decisions wrongly and prem came out and apologised. Was three in there midweek games prem apologised for too
 
Grays_1890 said:
Mate there was one weekend I think Norwich were involved when they overturned 4 ref decisions wrongly and prem came out and apologised. Was three in there midweek games prem apologised for too
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didn’t they say that var could have intervened rather than they got it wrong
As in var didn’t interject but should have
We had a huge problem that VAR didn’t intervene on anything and the ref waited on VAR
 
Bedfordspurs said:
didn’t they say that var could have intervened rather than they got it wrong
As in var didn’t interject but should have
We had a huge problem that VAR didn’t intervene on anything and the ref waited on VAR
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No these were penalties wrongly awarded when refs took no action.
 
Grays_1890 said:
No these were penalties wrongly awarded when refs took no action.
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I’d need to track them ones again
I remove quite a lot where the ref either did or didn’t give them and they said VAR should have intervened but didn’t
I don’t remember any when VAR did intervene and over turn other than offsides
 
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It’s a tiny amount of changes due to var when you consider how many games were played and how many calls were made by officials over 380 games

Total overturns: 109
Leading to goals: 27
Leading to disallowed goals: 56
Penalties awarded: 22 (9 missed)
Penalties overturned: 7 (1 for offside)
Penalties retakes: 4 (1 from scored, 3 from missed)
Goals ruled out for offside: 34
Goals awarded after incorrect offside: 8
Goals ruled out for handball: 14
Goals allowed after wrong handball: 2
Red cards: 9
Overturned red cards: 3
 
Bedfordspurs said:
@Grays_1890

It’s a tiny amount of changes due to var when you consider how many games were played and how many calls were made by officials over 380 games

Total overturns: 109
Leading to goals: 27
Leading to disallowed goals: 56
Penalties awarded: 22 (9 missed)
Penalties overturned: 7 (1 for offside)
Penalties retakes: 4 (1 from scored, 3 from missed)
Goals ruled out for offside: 34
Goals awarded after incorrect offside: 8
Goals ruled out for handball: 14
Goals allowed after wrong handball: 2
Red cards: 9
Overturned red cards: 3
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Yeh maybe, just responding with what I remember. It was the weekend Farke went mental and the prem issued a statement with Mike Riley.

If you are going to improve the game with VAR it needs to be clear and obvious or factual based intervention or not at all. You cant have a man on the pitch give a subjective decision to be overuled by another which means we debate that for months like we did with refs only.

There is also no logic to refer a decision to another man to then make a human error mistake but take longer to do it and do so with the help of tech and slow mo.

For me if a ref makes a decision or not and you cant see it in a first slow mo you uphold his decision. If you need to roll back and forth its too much.

It just seems an over complicated way of getting to the same level of accuracy we were getting before VAR was about with alot less enjoyment
 
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Grays_1890 said:
Yeh maybe, just responding with what I remember. It was the weekend Farke went mental and the prem issued a statement with Mike Riley.

If you are going to improve the game with VAR it needs to be clear and obvious or factual based intervention or not at all. You cant have a man on the pitch give a subjective decision to be overuled by another which means we debate that for months like we did with refs only.

There is also no logic to refer a decision to another man to then make a human error mistake but take longer to do it and do so with the help of tech and slow mo.

For me if a ref makes a decision or not and you cant see it in a first slow mo you uphold his decision. If you need to roll back and forth its too much.

It just seems an over complicated way of getting to the same level of accuracy we were getting before VAR was about with alot less enjoyment[/QUOTE/]
Oh I agree
I hate the subjective debate
It’s just that by default
I mean to not send him off today for maiming dingdong van dijk was appalling but typical of how we’re seeing VAR being used
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