Transfer thread

[Muttley]

If we want Wharton and we are head to head with Liverpool, we have to offer Palace £100M if Liverpool are prepared to bid £80M. If RB Leipzig want £100M for Diomande we have to take the plunge. And I understand the ramifications of the club over paying in tranfer fees and wages, but the only other alternative is to stick to their guns on the buying young players and developing model and hoping that in 2/3 years the bulk of them have come good.

This resonates with me. It's the quality over quantity argument.

What happens if Spurs buy 2 players in a summer window of the quality you talk about. Then in the January window they buy just one, again of this elite quality. Alongside, keep buying these younger players (e.g. Souza) and nurturing them whilst selling players for the types of money we got for Johnson.

I've lost count of the sheer number of players Spurs buy. They take their budgets and they spread them way too thin and it hurts us on the pitch. As City have just shown, I don't think you need to be spending £100m on every signing but there is that high end price you need to pay.

If we follow this model for 3-5 years then our club will find itself in a different place.

 

[Mr Gogolak]

This resonates with me. It's the quality over quantity argument.

What happens if Spurs buy 2 players in a summer window of the quality you talk about. Then in the January window they buy just one, again of this elite quality. Alongside, keep buying these younger players (e.g. Souza) and nurturing them whilst selling players for the types of money we got for Johnson.

I've lost count of the sheer number of players Spurs buy. They take their budgets and they spread them way too thin and it hurts us on the pitch. As City have just shown, I don't think you need to be spending £100m on every signing but there is that high end price you need to pay.

If we follow this model for 3-5 years then our club will find itself in a different place.

From what I understand, the wage structure is the reason why we don't follow that pattern. The reasoning behind that is that if you 'break the bank' for one player, then others will start asking for bigger wages and your expenditure will spiral out of control. I think Middlesboro and Leeds set up an example of a route a lot of chairmen didn't want to follow.

Unfortunately, we went a bit too far in the other direction. You can't have a team entirely made up of prospects. It's not the 90s anymore and what Ferguson did at ManUtd won't happen again. It's a different league now. You also need quality, experienced professionals with strong work ethics and winning habits in your squad and that's a balance we never managed to get right, unfortunately.

 

[braineclipse]

This resonates with me. It's the quality over quantity argument.

What happens if Spurs buy 2 players in a summer window of the quality you talk about. Then in the January window they buy just one, again of this elite quality. Alongside, keep buying these younger players (e.g. Souza) and nurturing them whilst selling players for the types of money we got for Johnson.

I've lost count of the sheer number of players Spurs buy. They take their budgets and they spread them way too thin and it hurts us on the pitch. As City have just shown, I don't think you need to be spending £100m on every signing but there is that high end price you need to pay.

If we follow this model for 3-5 years then our club will find itself in a different place.

So 3-5 years of signing 3 elite quality players per year, price range of 60-100m each? Say an average of 70m so that's 210m on those per season/year + increased wages and some spending on younger players and we'll be in a good place?

Sure that would probably work if we could make that happen financially.

I agree that at this point quality over quantity along with a focus on young proper talents. I just don't see it as likely that we can spend that much, and if we did we'd need to see results on the pitch quicker than a 3-5 year period.

 

[SirPercyHotspur]

Moaning and groaning on every Spurs forum everywhere but as far as I can see not accounting for inflation this season has seen the highest net outlay ever on transfers.

 

[camspur]

To be honest I wasn't expecting any incoming players this window.

If the plan is to part company with Frank at some point this season why buy players he wants rather than wait until the summer and get players in and out that yhe new manager wants.

 

[Raziel]

Moaning and groaning on every Spurs forum everywhere but as far as I can see not accounting for inflation this season has seen the highest net outlay ever on transfers.

People are moaning because the new old owners have specifically and repeatedly said

- The reason they got rid of Levy was they expected more on field success
- That they would invest, make money available, change the wage structure

Net spend should go up, every year since Covid the stadium is growing in revenue, additional non-football events, Karting etc. (all the brick people liked to poke fun at Levy for), we have the 9th highest revenue in world football (and yes, I know there is more to it than just revenue)

Truth is, they have pulled a huge bait and switch

- They trotted out their new vision right as the summer window closed (where we didn't push out the boat for Semenyo or anyone at elite level)
- They talked it up again in December, Vinai statement, mouthpiece messaging, even Frank saying we went for Semenyo

No one should be happy, not fans, not player, not Frank, this window is a disaster

- We are 14th (money lost per position)
- We will lose European football next season (money lost)
- We will lose prestige, that hurts the club to attract sponsors and new fans
- We will lose points for future European participation which hurts our chances to get better draws
- We have 11 players out, which in turn is creating more problems by running the remaining players into the ground

And in that environment, our plan is to offload more players than we bring in? swap one first team player for another, buy a couple of kids and effectively leave the squad worse off than the window when it started.

And people are defending this? no good buys, hard window, saving powder for summer (ignoring the loss of revenue, ignoring who are you attracting with no European football)

Simple question, these asshats couldn't find a single fudging loan player in all of Europe that might have been able to help us?