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Transfer rumours - summer 2021 edition

Raziel said:
Mate, it's not the club, it's the strikers

- Agents have outright said for years, no good striker wants to come to Spurs because they won't get enough playing time.
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I know, I know - I just find the whole notion absurd, if you pay them, they will come surely?

It has led to us running the bloke into the ground and for two of the three finals he's played in for us, he's been barely 70% fit.
 
superspurs said:
I know, I know - I just find the whole notion absurd, if you pay them, they will come surely?

It has led to us running the bloke into the ground and for two of the three finals he's played in for us, he's been barely 70% fit.
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this season for me is prime of how we fudge it up

- Vinicius should have had more game time, not only subbing for Kane, but taking Son off (especially in some of his "off spells") and in more cup games.
- Big reason backup strikers don't work is we play like they are Kane (Vini and Soldado as examples were poachers, Llorente good in the air, etc. etc.), we never adapt for them.

Until we manage that, those strikers are right to stay away.
 
Raziel said:
this season for me is prime of how we fudge it up

- Vinicius should have had more game time, not only subbing for Kane, but taking Son off (especially in some of his "off spells") and in more cup games.
- Big reason backup strikers don't work is we play like they are Kane (Vini and Soldado as examples were poachers, Llorente good in the air, etc. etc.), we never adapt for them.

Until we manage that, those strikers are right to stay away.
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Some of that simply comes down to coaching doesnt it?

Also if Kane was to leave, we'd likely sign two CFs who were closer in terms of ability. Many other teams manage it - part of our problem is that Kane is so good.
 
AdamB said:
I dont know some of the name above, but we need to go back to signing players who are 24 and under and grow a team. FOr the Kane money, we could get 3 darn good players who are semi proven in a big league and of that profile
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I've edited my post to add in the current ages of those players.
 
Raziel said:
Mate, it's not the club, it's the strikers

- Agents have outright said for years, no good striker wants to come to Spurs because they won't get enough playing time.
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No established top striker would.... Plenty of up and coming strikers would however. Bringing in Toney from Peterborough back when we were strikerless would've been the easiest deal ever. Even if we'd just used him for 6 months we could still have sold him to a championship club and lost very little (if anything) on the deal.
 
Yiddo said:
But Aarons is significantly younger, one of them signings that we will regret not signing.
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Matty Cash and Jayden Bogle are of similar quality to Aarons. Cash cost Villa £16m. Bogle cost Derby £11m. Aarons has a lot of hype around him and is a decent player. He's by no means a superstar though (and I think I was the first person on here to big up Aarons back when Norwich were in the Championship chasing their promotion before this one).
 
Raziel said:
this season for me is prime of how we fudge it up

- Vinicius should have had more game time, not only subbing for Kane, but taking Son off (especially in some of his "off spells") and in more cup games.
- Big reason backup strikers don't work is we play like they are Kane (Vini and Soldado as examples were poachers, Llorente good in the air, etc. etc.), we never adapt for them.

Until we manage that, those strikers are right to stay away.
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That again highlights how poor our recruitment structure is. What's the point of having a backup striker that cannot be integrated into the team playing the same way. Contrasting the way we operate with the way Campos operated at Lille is like comparing amateur football to professional football.
 
If Bournemouth don't make it back to the PL then I'd love to see us make the opportune signing of Lloyd Kelly from them (perhaps then loaning him back to them). He got a bit unlucky with injuries but he has the lot. Having him on our books would insure us in the event that Real Madrid took Regulion back at the end of next season and Sessegnon not being good enough and/or being moved to play as a left sided attacker.
 
Finney Is Back said:
That again highlights how poor our recruitment structure is. What's the point of having a backup striker that cannot be integrated into the team playing the same way. Contrasting the way we operate with the way Campos operated at Lille is like comparing amateur football to professional football.
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Because nobody plays like Kane outside of Lewandowski?

You are being too 1+1 here, certain players = Modric, Eriksen, Dembele, Kane are very difficult to have replacement/rotations for.

And why wouldn't you a plan B option type?
 
Raziel said:
Because nobody plays like Kane outside of Lewandowski?

You are being too 1+1 here, certain players = Modric, Eriksen, Dembele, Kane are very difficult to have replacement/rotations for.

And why wouldn't you a plan B option type?
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There are a number of players who play in a similar way to Kane. You're not going to get a player as good to replace them, but you at least have somebody who plays in the same style so you don't need to alter the entire team's tactics. Again, a brilliant DoF will have potential players that fit the style. Meanwhile we have Laurel and Hardy.... Oops I meant Levy and Hitchen
 
Finney Is Back said:
There are a number of players who play in a similar way to Kane. You're not going to get a player as good to replace them, but you at least have somebody who plays in the same style so you don't need to alter the entire team's tactics. Again, a brilliant DoF will have potential players that fit the style. Meanwhile we have Laurel and Hardy.... Oops I meant Levy and Hitchen
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A two footed striker with good strength, movement, amazing passing range, ability to score from range, can play as provider or poacher? The guy is a combination of Sheringham & Shearer and for the life of me, I can't think of a similar player in the PL right now, plus willing to play back up role while being available for a price Spurs can afford?

Not arguing if a better scout could do better, but I think the striker situation is pretty unique (if you are looking like for like, which btw, I don't particularly agree with)
 
Raziel said:
A two footed striker with good strength, movement, amazing passing range, ability to score from range, can play as provider or poacher? The guy is a combination of Sheringham & Shearer and for the life of me, I can't think of a similar player in the PL right now, plus willing to play back up role while being available for a price Spurs can afford?

Not arguing if a better scout could do better, but I think the striker situation is pretty unique (if you are looking like for like, which btw, I don't particularly agree with)
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At our peak under poch we had three unique players, Dembele, Eriksen and Kane.
We can't replace them like for like, we need different players with different skill sets in a different system.
Some seem to struggle with that concept.
 
glasgowspur said:
At our peak under poch we had three unique players, Dembele, Eriksen and Kane.
We can't replace them like for like, we need different players with different skill sets in a different system.
Some seem to struggle with that concept.
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What we need is proper flying wingers like Peak Rose and Walker to stretch teams out and then add some quality in defence, the rest of the team is above average bar some deadwood.
 
Yiddo said:
But Aarons is significantly younger, one of them signings that we will regret not signing.
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My thoughts as well, just turned 21 and played a full season in the Prem already. He can also play as a LB as well. should be top of the list for me this summer.
 
Raziel said:
Because nobody plays like Kane outside of Lewandowski?

You are being too 1+1 here, certain players = Modric, Eriksen, Dembele, Kane are very difficult to have replacement/rotations for.

And why wouldn't you a plan B option type?
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Agree, Kane is a one off as he is equally as good dropping deep as he is as the front man. I really do not see many if any around who do that as well as he does.
 
parklane1 said:
My thoughts as well, just turned 21 and played a full season in the Prem already. He can also play as a LB as well. should be top of the list for me this summer.
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He's KWP all over again. He's talented, but just not big enough to make a top EPL fullback. He'll constantly be targeted

Bogle is just as good, much more physical, and will be less than half the price
 
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