*** Tottenham Hotspur v Nottingham Forest ***

[metalgear]

Was gary neville much quicker?

maybe not but grey has vision and great passing range. great if he can be in a more central position. I predict he will come good with bergvall in centre mid.

 

[glasgowspur]

Lord have mercy!

• Spurs have lost their last two Premier League games played on Easter Monday, with both of these defeats coming at home – 1-2 vs Manchester United in 2006 and 1-2 vs Norwich in 2012.
• Nottingham Forest have lost just two of their last 35 league games played on Easter Monday (W21 D12), while in the top-flight they’re unbeaten in 16 (W13 D3) since a 1-0 loss at Chelsea in 1966.
• Nottingham Forest’s 1-0 win in the reverse fixture ended a six-game losing streak against Spurs in the Premier League. They last did the league double over them in the 1996-97 campaign.
• Tottenham Hotspur have lost 17 Premier League matches in 2024-25, their most in one season since the 2003-04 campaign (19). Manager Ange Postecoglou is one of three Spurs bosses to lose 17+ games in a season, along with Osvaldo Ardiles in 1993-94 (19) and Gerry Francis in 1996-97 (18).
• Tottenham Hotspur have lost 16 of their last 20 Premier League matches against teams starting the day in the top half of the table (W3 D1) and have lost eight out of nine (D1) since winning 4-0 against 2nd place Emirates Marketing Project in November.

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It's easter, this is when the resurrection of ange begins.

 

[Bishop]

To your last point, I was a huge fan of Neville's defending. His positional sense and reading of the game was exemplary and he was a talker to anyone that played with him. That being said, Neville was born in 75 and his breakout season was 94/95. He then played another full season at RB before being the youngster in Venables 96 Euro team. Makes you wonder how good Neville was at Archie's current age. He has only just turned 19. Prime Gray could be anything but he will never be quick.

I like Gray a lot, there's a lot of potential in there but I don't see it at FB, mainly because to be completely honest I don't think hes played particularly well there or looked comfortable. In the middle at CB hes looked very promising, not enough to displace an actual CB but to be a very decent fall back option. Like most I'm excited about seeing him in midfield as the attributes he has shown like the switch pass and his comfort in the ball really look to be what is needed in CM. If course how good he defensively in that role remains to be seen.

 

[SteveAWOL]

The fact Forest are so high up the table, Saudi Sportswashing Machine and City losing 9/10 games this season yet they are all battling it out for third makes it even worse for us. This really was the season we could have got back into the mix. We are appalling.

Ain’t going to challenge for 3rd by averaging 0.5pts per game against top half clubs, don’t even have the consolation of positive GD.

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

Ain’t going to challenge for 3rd by averaging 0.5pts per game against top half clubs, don’t even have the consolation of positive GD.

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The hilarious thing about that is thinking that those x2 wins were a 4-0 against City and a 4-1 against Villa.

 

[El Dante]

Archie Gray definitely needs to start in midfield. We relied on him for so many matches this season and he deserves to have significant involvement for the rest of the season, especially as we seem to have decided our league matches are not significant. I believe we shouldn’t write off our league matches but of course they are less important now than our matches in the Europa League.

What we need to do is try different things in our league matches, experiment to see what can work for us and to give time to players whose future could be significant for us. Gray in midfield is one of those. We need to see what he can offer us playing from midfield.

That said, I expect us to play a stronger team against Forest than we did against Wolves. We have ten days after Forest before we play in the Europa League. We have to be winning this one as we can’t lose every league match from here until the end of the season. We need to have confidence from wins and some ongoing general form for us to win the Europa League I think.