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Tim Sherwood…gone \o/

Do you want Tim Sherwood to stay as manager?

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Yet Rodgers seems to be capable of devising/coaching a system where the entire team performs well around its star player, ours performed like **** and just waited for Bale to do something. If/when Liverpool lose Suarez, of course they won't be quite as good but they'll still play to a high level despite losing a world class player, that's because Rodgers is a better coach than AVB.
 
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Rossi22 said:
Yet Rodgers seems to be capable of devising/coaching a system where the entire team performs well around its star player, ours performed like **** and just waited for Bale to do something. If/when Liverpool lose Suarez, of course they won't be quite as good but they'll still play to a high level despite losing a world class player, that's because Rodgers is a better coach than AVB.
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+1 to this. The style of play is ingrained throughout the team and will stay the same regardless of formation. That said, Liverpool do remind me of us last year. Suarez has kicked into hyperdrive and is running things, everything is falling his way, there are times he tries little flicks and they don't come off but land back at his feet lol. The question is would they be as effective with someone else there? Likely not but still they'd be up there because the system works. AVB's system didn't work.

It galls me to hear Hansen say tonight "Pass and move, the Liverpool way". How has it come to this in just 2 years.
 
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milo said:
I don't see how anyone can disagree that AVB devised a system to get the best out of Bale and built thge side around him. Our formation changed significantly over the season, particularly after Look Lennon's injury. We were obviously overly reliant on one player but that is because he was the only world class attacking player that we had and I think AVB deserves credit for devising a set up that maximised his impact.
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I am not convinced that our ENTIRE game plan was devised by AVB to get the best out of Bale. IIRC most of his goals were spectacular INDIVIDUAL goals not reliant on team mates hardly at all.
 
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Pirate55 said:
I am not convinced that our ENTIRE game plan was devised by AVB to get the best out of Bale. IIRC most of his goals were spectacular INDIVIDUAL goals not reliant on team mates hardly at all.
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Exactly. I really don't see how you can credit our forwards for basically getting out of the way so Bale could unleash a 30 yard piledriver. Case in point, West Ham away, how can you credit anyone but Bale for that goal?

Although I would say moving him to the middle full time and giving him more freedom was a good move by AVB, Redknapp tried switching him and even played him in the middle at Norwich away, but AVB did it on a consistent basis.
 
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Pirate55 said:
I am not convinced that our ENTIRE game plan was devised by AVB to get the best out of Bale. IIRC most of his goals were spectacular INDIVIDUAL goals not reliant on team mates hardly at all.
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The rest of the team was set up to support Bale. We didn't play like that at the beginning of thge season and we hadn't played like that under Redknapp.
 
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milo said:
The rest of the team was set up to support Bale. We didn't play like that at the beginning of thge season and we hadn't played like that under Redknapp.
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Could you explain in a little more depth what you mean exactly by supporting him please Milo?
 
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milo said:
The rest of the team was set up to support Bale. We didn't play like that at the beginning of thge season and we hadn't played like that under Redknapp.
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Can you give some specific examples of this rather than vague generalities?

Even if true, absolute madness to rely on one person so much. What would have happened if he had got injured. No Plan B whatsoever.
 
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This AVB masterminding Bale into smashing home 30 yard winners theory is ridiculous. The team played very average football last season, Bale's goals masked that. Bale leaves, the team still plays very average football but with no Bale goals to mask it, what was AVB's setup this season? To play like **** and lead the opposition into a false sense of security?
 
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Pirate55 said:
Can you give some specific examples of this rather than vague generalities?

Even if true, absolute madness to rely on one person so much. What would have happened if he had got injured. No Plan B whatsoever.
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that's what the scum did with the rapist, in his last season, didn't work out too bad for them ****z
 
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Anyway, back to Tim. I like the line about us being able to play 15 v 15 in training and there being no need for more signings. I reckon if Hoddle came in for example he'd be straight in there asking for new players.
 
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milo said:
I don't want to sound like a **** but maybe we should move this to a more suitable thread and get this one back on topic.
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Lets just forget about AVB altogether. He is the past. Lets concentrate on the future.

Come on TT, prove all your doubters wrong and salvage our season.
 
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Jurgen the German said:
Not true, they had players like Song who provided many assists for RVP and Walcott who chipped in with his share of the goals.
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Crap.

The season (his last), which is definately where they had it set up to provide for him (2011-12)

Song got 1 goal!
Walnut got 8, and he was the 2nd top scorer.
 
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DHSF said:
ONE GAME

Actually scrap that...

ONE DAYS TRAINING haha.
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That's why I wouldn't read too much into the West Ham game. He talked before hand about the need to get the fans back on side and entertained and predominantly picked an experienced Premier League side (Chiriches and Capoue apart but they were enforced)...although the result didn't quite turn out as we had all hoped I definitely left feeling far more entertained and positive than I had done for months with the dire football on show!

Tomorrow will be a far interesting test and I'm quite excited to see what he comes up with and who he starts. I think we'll get beat tomorrow as the Saints are due a win and confidence is particularly low but for me shape, style and performance will be what I'm looking for but even then I don't think we should be judging Sherwood purely on two tough games...let's not forget anything can happen in the cup as we found out last season at Leeds and arguably rode our luck in the 2nd half to take 3 points at St Mary's last season. We need to stay patient and give him the support and opportunity any manager of our club deserves for however long he remains in charge.
 
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