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Thomas Frank - Head Coach

elltrev said:
I really liked how we mixed up the very aggressive pressing and the deeper defending. It was always one or the other - no half way house.
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Yes. Absolutely.

Difficult to say how good we were at both in the opening 70, but very promising signs.

Some fans in the stadium looked unhappy that Tel didn't chase lost causes towards the end. I really liked that. Think it may have been part of what you point out.

A bugbear of mine is when players (usually forwards) leave the structure to press on their own only to get easily bypassed because they're on their own and then when they get bypassed they're not in the structure where they're supposed to be.

For sure there's a time to chase lost causes, but you have to be selective of that, not just a headless chicken.
 
For me you could see the coaching at work, the set plays both ends have gone up a level, thats clear, the defending triggers you can see a mile off, its so good and the last ditch stuff although nervy, looks organised and not just chaos. The press for long periods looked world class, probably the most impressive part for me.

The issue will come, like it did, in fairness to Ange and those before him, when the depth runs out, we need depth, its clear as day, you won't survive in a Frank side unless you work hard, I said that a while back on here and its becoming clear he is taking no prisoners, but we don't have that depth as yet.

I hope he is backed
 
Grays_1890 said:
For me you could see the coaching at work, the set plays both ends have gone up a level, thats clear, the defending triggers you can see a mile off, its so good and the last ditch stuff although nervy, looks organised and not just chaos. The press for long periods looked world class, probably the most impressive part for me.

The issue will come, like it did, in fairness to Ange and those before him, when the depth runs out, we need depth, its clear as day, you won't survive in a Frank side unless you work hard, I said that a while back on here and its becoming clear he is taking no prisoners, but we don't have that depth as yet.

I hope he is backed
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Me too.
But there is a large part of me is just waiting for groundhog day to return in 18mths
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Mou earned the right to be a narcissist
What he did at Porto is more than any manager has done in Europe since
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There's obviously narcissistic traits which are very different from the more exaggerated narcissistic personality disorder (NPD).

I'm hoping what you meant was a couple of the less dangerous traits like self importance and power. I think we all admire the drive and even arrogance of the best of the best. It goes with the territory. If you're advocating for people with NPD then that doesn't wash with me at all.

In my experience, the above traits are the least of your worries from people with NPD who take it to the next level. It's about control, gas lighting, zero empathy, exploitation of others for their own gain. These are traits of a narcissist. At the extreme condition, they exists to tame the bull until they completely own them. The more the bull fights back, the more they get out of it. However, they will also be nice as pie on other occasions to get into your head. It's a really unpleasant daily ritual being around that type of narcissist.

In my case, once I had complete clarity of what was happening through conversations with friends that were trained in these areas, I stopped fighting (my natural instinct) and found a way to separate. This was workplace related and I was mid career. I also learnt in the process that people with NPD suffer greatly themselves and need therapy.

So back to Jose, I think in the early days he was just adopting a couple of the self importance traits. I think we all found it all quite funny and loved his arrogance. Obviously KDB didn't as he was gas lighted and made his own decisions. By the time it came to later career and players like Shaw, Smalling and Dele he was clearly using the all those next level traits and he presented as NPD. The one I felt sorry for was Smalling as he didn't resist. He even followed him to Italy as Jose was well and truly in his head. Shaw was probably the toughest cookie and figured this all out early. Dele was incredibly vulnerable at the time and I believe Jose's NPD took over. I'm glad Dele refused to become subservient to him though. I knew at the time that Jose wasn't going to change. He can't. I wasn't surprised that Levy and co took action eventually and removed Jose from the club in the same way that Chelsea had over the club doctor. It had all gone beyond a healthy working culture in my opinion. It wasn't about the cup final chances. It was bigger than that.

I'm intrigued to learn more about Frank's personality to be fair, especially when he's under the most pressure. I have a good feeling about his authenticity.
 
Back to the Frank topic.

I'm loving that we're starting to see 3 of our centre midfielders get lots of plaudits for their performances. Not seen that for a while to be fair.

Nice back handed compliment to Frank's early work at the club.
 
Muttley said:
Back to the Frank topic.

I'm loving that we're starting to see 3 of our centre midfielders get lots of plaudits for their performances. Not seen that for a while to be fair.

Nice back handed compliment to Frank's early work at the club.
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Yes it was a nice change to see that our CM was not over run and was fairly tight especially in the first half. I said before the game i was not expecting to win the game but wanted to see our players against a very good side and how well we could manage. I know we did not win but there were good signs as a team and the structure is looking promising. Onwards and upwards.
 
braineclipse said:
Some fans in the stadium looked unhappy that Tel didn't chase lost causes towards the end. I really liked that. Think it may have been part of what you point out.

A bugbear of mine is when players (usually forwards) leave the structure to press on their own only to get easily bypassed because they're on their own and then when they get bypassed they're not in the structure where they're supposed to be.

For sure there's a time to chase lost causes, but you have to be selective of that, not just a headless chicken.
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Thanks for posting that, it's a good point.
I was annoyed that Tel seemed to be jogging around, unsure who to press, but perhaps he was doing what you say above and had been told not to go charging around in a 1 man press.
 
I'm pleased that Frank learns and adapts. He watched our defence struggle against a very dynamic Bayern attack and thought "Hmm, PSG are even more dribbly and wizardly than Bayern, maybe I could try 5 at the back to negate the PSG front 5?"

Brilliant approach. We VERY nearly got the win with this approach. If we had gone toe to toe I think they would have found gaps and won easily.

Note - some are saying they've only been training for a week, but they were in serious competition 3 weeks ago so it's not as if they have been on the lagers, they are still exceptionally fit. I was hoping they would completely gas out after 60 mins, but they had jjjjjust enough in the tank.

As others have said, if we had a fit Deki / Solanke / Eze I reckon we would have won.
 
Bullet said:
I'm pleased that Frank learns and adapts. He watched our defence struggle against a very dynamic Bayern attack and thought "Hmm, PSG are even more dribbly and wizardly than Bayern, maybe I could try 5 at the back to negate the PSG front 5?"

Brilliant approach. We VERY nearly got the win with this approach. If we had gone toe to toe I think they would have found gaps and won easily.

Note - some are saying they've only been training for a week, but they were in serious competition 3 weeks ago so it's not as if they have been on the lagers, they are still exceptionally fit. I was hoping they would completely gas out after 60 mins, but they had jjjjjust enough in the tank.

As others have said, if we had a fit Deki / Solanke / Eze I reckon we would have won.
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I think that was just fans clutching at whatever straw might have been available. I don’t think anyone really believed they would be totally out of condition.
 
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