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The transfer thread

Gutter Boy said:
I don't think we'll sell Richarlison (or will be able to particularly). Unless we don't qualify for any european competition and have to really cut the squad size and let him go for a fire sale price.

If we signed Muani and got EL/EC, I'd perhaps see our front line being:

Odobert---Solanke---Muani
(Son)-----(Richarlison)---(Johnson)

With Moore, Lankshear and Yang likely going on loan.
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I don’t see any right footed player playing on the right and scoring more than Johnson. If we’re spending big I’d rather get an inverted type who could score close to 20. Like Son has done the other side for many years.

It may be that Odobert is a bit more 2 footed and can play right and Muani left.
 
Benny_Lad said:
I don’t see any right footed player playing on the right and scoring more than Johnson. If we’re spending big I’d rather get an inverted type who could score close to 20. Like Son has done the other side for many years.

It may be that Odobert is a bit more 2 footed and can play right and Muani left.
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I think he can be
- Starter on RW with Johnson coming on against tired legs
- Rotation across any of the front 3
- Long term option for Son replacement (coming in off LW with right foot)

We need to be ruthless, Wilson may or may not work out, Johnson is limited, Richi is crocked, here is a senior player who can compete/cover across all of those positions. If he ends up being better than 1 or more of the current options, that's good.
 
Benny_Lad said:
I don’t see any right footed player playing on the right and scoring more than Johnson. If we’re spending big I’d rather get an inverted type who could score close to 20. Like Son has done the other side for many years.

It may be that Odobert is a bit more 2 footed and can play right and Muani left.
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Muani plays like an inverted winger, but on his orthodox side. I wouldn't judge just on his footedness. A bit like how Tomori is right footed, but very much a LCB/LB.
 
Raziel said:
I think he can be
- Starter on RW with Johnson coming on against tired legs
- Rotation across any of the front 3
- Long term option for Son replacement (coming in off LW with right foot)

We need to be ruthless, Wilson may or may not work out, Johnson is limited, Richi is crocked, here is a senior player who can compete/cover across all of those positions. If he ends up being better than 1 or more of the current options, that's good.
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I think that versatility would be really useful.

If he's that "elite" player or not I think would be my question for the kind of money involved (if it's an obligation).
 
Legohamster said:
In a league Lacazette has scored 51 in 79, Muani stats are not appealing.

Then again messi didn't exactly set the league on fire
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I had a closer delve into his more recent numbers at EF and PSG.

EF - 40 goal involvements is 43 games in 22/23 (23G 17A). I actually love the fact he has heavy assist numbers aswell, shows a constant involvement in the game rather than someone who ‘just’ scores at the end of a move. (Watkins, Jackson, Isak, Solanke all have between 3-5 so far this season and these are quite regular numbers for out and out strikers).

PSG - 23/24. It looks like a drop off. 18 goal involvements in 44 games. But if we look at the minutes played it was only a total of 2235 (therefore many sub appearances). If we divide the minutes by an average of say 80 mins we arrive at more like 28 games. 12 goals and 8 assists isn’t disgraceful for someone that has been used wide, probably not on pens and has been in and out of the team.

If we’re querying whether he’s ’good enough’ for Spurs, then on stats alone I think we know the answer to that. And when you throw in the eye test and our playing style then he should get bundles of ball/chances to hit really good numbers.
 
Benny_Lad said:
I had a closer delve into his more recent numbers at EF and PSG.

EF - 40 goal involvements is 43 games in 22/23 (23G 17A). I actually love the fact he has heavy assist numbers aswell, shows a constant involvement in the game rather than someone who ‘just’ scores at the end of a move. (Watkins, Jackson, Isak, Solanke all have between 3-5 so far this season and these are quite regular numbers for out and out strikers).

PSG - 23/24. It looks like a drop off. 18 goal involvements in 44 games. But if we look at the minutes played it was only a total of 2235 (therefore many sub appearances). If we divide the minutes by an average of say 80 mins we arrive at more like 28 games. 12 goals and 8 assists isn’t disgraceful for someone that has been used wide, probably not on pens and has been in and out of the team.

If we’re querying whether he’s ’good enough’ for Spurs, then on stats alone I think we know the answer to that. And when you throw in the eye test and our playing style then he should get bundles of ball/chances to hit really good numbers.
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Underperforming his xG somewhat at PSG, but small sample size and not by a lot. More an issue of getting chances than not taking them (to have more impressive numbers).

Showed before that in the right system and role he can get into scoring chances.

One concern for me would be if he's more of an open spaces, counter attacking player or also well suited to other phases of the game. I haven't seen him much, but kinda got the impression that he wasn't great in those other phases. But I know others disagree with that impression of mine and it's no more than an impression.
 
Gutter Boy said:
Where would he go though? Unless we sub his wages and let him go cheap to Everton (if they stay up)?

I think we could probably do with both, once we ditch Werner, with Son's decline, and now Kulu is a permanent ACM. Unless we really think Lankshear or Yang are ready
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I think Yang is 100% ready, I have watched his you tube videos countless times and he is the next coming.

Stating the obvious, but if we sign 2 more players such as Tomori and Muani, then we have added 4 players this Jan including Yang.

Would be decent to have 4 new members that can contribute from a January window, even though Yang was ultimately signed in the summer.
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
Muani only happens if there is no obligation to buy clause.

Oh, and the obvious often forgotten one...the player actually wants to come here.
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If the price is reasonable I can see us agreeing. Something like 20m in the summer, another 23m paid in 3.5m chucks yearly.

I’ve seen 200k a week wages noted but I think his wages will be closer to 150k a week. Less if he’s not playing more if he does well. This kind of deal would work for us I should imagine.
 
SpurMeUp said:
If the price is reasonable I can see us agreeing. Something like 20m in the summer, another 23m paid in 3.5m chucks yearly.

I’ve seen 200k a week wages noted but I think his wages will be closer to 150k a week. Less if he’s not playing more if he does well. This kind of deal would work for us I should imagine.
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We only stand a chance if we offer a deal that includes something like an obligation to sign. This is a loan originally and there are other clubs such as Villa apparently interested. So why would he pick us when we are not going to offer higher wages and no CL football etc? That is why it's very much down to the player unless we offer something to PSG that other clubs do not. So it depends on how highly we rate this guy - whether it is someone we want long term, if he is just viewed as a 'filler' for the rest of the season I don't think we will get him and even then we will have to hope other clubs don't match an obligation to buy type of deal.....
 
If the player thinks a half season shop window loan deal would earn him a better contract/transfer fee in the summer than what he is currently being offered then it might make sense to him.
 
Benny_Lad said:
I had a closer delve into his more recent numbers at EF and PSG.

EF - 40 goal involvements is 43 games in 22/23 (23G 17A). I actually love the fact he has heavy assist numbers aswell, shows a constant involvement in the game rather than someone who ‘just’ scores at the end of a move. (Watkins, Jackson, Isak, Solanke all have between 3-5 so far this season and these are quite regular numbers for out and out strikers).

PSG - 23/24. It looks like a drop off. 18 goal involvements in 44 games. But if we look at the minutes played it was only a total of 2235 (therefore many sub appearances). If we divide the minutes by an average of say 80 mins we arrive at more like 28 games. 12 goals and 8 assists isn’t disgraceful for someone that has been used wide, probably not on pens and has been in and out of the team.

If we’re querying whether he’s ’good enough’ for Spurs, then on stats alone I think we know the answer to that. And when you throw in the eye test and our playing style then he should get bundles of ball/chances to hit really good numbers.
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See that’s the kind of data and analysis the club will do but on a greater scale
I’m not convinced it’s all a legit kink because it’s public but still the stats stack up
 
I can see us being the only club around right now both, with the money and willing to agree to an obligation in the summer, However even if PSG were happy with the deal proposed if I was Muani (or his agent!) I would want to wait around to the end of of the window to see what other clubs step up.
 
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