The transfer thread

[ricky2tricky4city]

I think we should be focusing on players that are ready to improve the first team. We have plenty of youth with Bergvall, Gray, Yang, Vuskovic, Moore etc. I want us to focus on one or two players that can improve us, Whether that is CM, Wide Forward or an upgrade on Udogie, Porro etc.

I think there will be a greater focus towards that in the next two windows (especially next summer)

 

[glorygloryeze]

Yeah, but Son is 5 years older. He has Johnson, Yang, Moore, Odobert etc as his diversity

Solanke and Richi have Scarlett, Lanks, Veliz and the other younger strikers as their diversity.

The subtle difference is that Son's successors are active in the first team. It's interest that our number 9's aren't, except for maybe Lanks who has at least played in the EL.

Btw, where is Lankshear??

 

[glorygloryeze]

I think there will be a greater focus towards that in the next two windows (especially next summer)

Out of interest, what makes you think that will be the case?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Out of interest, what makes you think that will be the case?

I’ll jump in
I think it’s the model
Buy quantity to grow and quality to show
The age of the players we have brought lately is insanely young and borderline naive if we didn’t have a plan
I’ve said before but those guys are for the next manager
But we have actually also spent a lot of money
We needed to address squad depth and that’s kinda there (yep we need a LCB/LB and a backup keeper)
The next guys will be the polish. The signings that cost money but make us step up
It’s what arsenal fid with rice and even city did with grealish
United have tried that every season in the main
My worry is for us it has rarely worked

 

[glorygloryeze]

I’ll jump in
I think it’s the model
Buy quantity to grow and quality to show
The age of the players we have brought lately is insanely young and borderline naive if we didn’t have a plan
I’ve said before but those guys are for the next manager
But we have actually also spent a lot of money
We needed to address squad depth and that’s kinda there (yep we need a LCB/LB and a backup keeper)
The next guys will be the polish. The signings that cost money but make us step up
It’s what arsenal fid with rice and even city did with grealish
United have tried that every season in the main
My worry is for us it has rarely worked

You're new here, right?

All those other teams have shown that when it comes to the crunch they are more than willing to pay big bucks (whether that be transfer fees and/or wages) to get that signing that is undoubtedly a 'step up'..we on the other hand...well...

We got 5th last season and had clear areas to improve for Ange: Striker, LCB, LB....we saw what we saw and i still don't know what makes people think (apart from hope?) we'll be any different in the next window or two.

Buying young and cheap is what our owners are comfortable with and i don't really see that changing until our ownership model does tbh.

You might call their plan naive but i call that them being consistent to what they are and have always been comfortable with

 

[Muttley]

Diversity?? What word did you mean to write at the end of those first two sentences btw?
I feel another entry into the autocorrect thread @Kandi1977 might be due ...just hoping it's not another vile one..

Oh, I see where you're coming from. I only meant age diversity, that's all. Nothing vile, at least in my head and I'm not related to Bentancur. Metal gear stated "age diversification" in the post I was answering to on succession planning, so I just used his language.

Make sense?

Saying that "age didgeridoo" could work if we want autocorrect

 

[Bedfordspurs]

You're new here, right?

All those other teams have shown that when it comes to the crunch they are more than willing to pay big bucks (whether that be transfer fees and/or wages) to get that signing that is undoubtedly a 'step up'..we on the other hand...well...

We got 5th last season and had clear areas to improve for Ange: Striker, LCB, LB....we saw what we saw and i still don't know what makes people think (apart from hope?) we'll be any different in the next window or two.

Buying young and cheap is what our owners are comfortable with and i don't really see that changing until our ownership model does tbh.

You might call their plan naive but i call that them being consistent to what they are and have always been comfortable with

You think these kids are cheap???
How many times have arsenal paid £100m out?
Their wages are the same as ours now

 

[glorygloryeze]

Oh, I see where you're coming from. I only meant age diversity, that's all. Nothing vile, at least in my head and I'm not related to Bentancur. Metal gear stated "age diversification" in the post I was answering to on succession planning, so I just used his language.

Make sense?

Saying that "age didgeridoo" could work if we want autocorrect

Ok, gotcha and now i get it.
Just had to check as so many autocorrects recently....some of which were indeed vile so i worried another word had become a victim

 

[Muttley]

Btw, where is Lankshear??

Great question. He's not slipped back into the U21 line-ups from what I can see.

 

[glorygloryeze]

You think these kids are cheap???
How many times have arsenal paid £100m out?
Their wages are the same as ours now

I'm sure the wages of people such as Gray, Bergvall etc are relatively low. Happy to be corrected on that though.
Arsenal haven;t done it many times, but when was the last time we spent big on a player and you thought, damn, bleep me we are really going for it here. Even in that Conte summer window it felt a bit like padding out squad. No bad thing in itself, but when you compare to our rivals we didn't really push the boat out in terms of buying top-notch players who would push the current ones.

Are Arsenal's overall wages really the same as ours? Who is our top two highest paid players and who are their top two? How much do they earn and how much are we paying ours?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I'm sure the wages of people such as Gray, Bergvall etc are relatively low. Happy to be corrected on that though.
Arsenal haven;t done it many times, but when was the last time we spent big on a player and you thought, damn, bleep me we are really going for it here. Even in that Conte summer window it felt a bit like padding out squad. No bad thing in itself, but when you compare to our rivals we didn't really push the boat out in terms of buying top-notch players who would push the current ones.

Are Arsenal's overall wages really the same as ours? Who is our top two highest paid players and who are their top two? How much do they earn and how much are we paying ours?

I’d argue that the highest transfer in the summer would be a statement
But because Solanke isn’t a name….
No idea how much they earn but do know the published wages were very similar
And back on players
Beergvall was what.. £10m
Gray… £30m
Vuskovix… £12m
That is over £50m spent on players with an average age of 18

 

[glorygloryeze]

I’d argue that the highest transfer in the summer would be a statement
But because Solanke isn’t a name….
No idea how much they earn but do know the published wages were very similar

It would be if it was done when we are top 4 or 'on the cusp of being great' as it were.
ENIC seem to be hapy to splurge when it looks like we are falling back towards mid-table or have a fight to get top 4. Never seemingly when we ARE a top 4 team who - if the splurge is right - could become a title challenger. Which is why i question why anyone thinks this time will be any different.

Solanke is not a big name and we were in dire need of a number 9, hence why it's not as big a statement compared to if we already had an established and performing number 9 and we went and paid big for another one.

If you get a chance and find the published wages, i'd love to have a look. I'd be surprised if our top earners earn the same as their top earners, though it could be that our average is higher than theirs but the gap between their highest and lowest is bigger.

 

[Muttley]

I'm sure the wages of people such as Gray, Bergvall etc are relatively low. Happy to be corrected on that though.
Arsenal haven;t done it many times, but when was the last time we spent big on a player and you thought, damn, bleep me we are really going for it here. Even in that Conte summer window it felt a bit like padding out squad. No bad thing in itself, but when you compare to our rivals we didn't really push the boat out in terms of buying top-notch players who would push the current ones.

Are Arsenal's overall wages really the same as ours? Who is our top two highest paid players and who are their top two? How much do they earn and how much are we paying ours?

I can never get my head around this either. Take a look at these links

2024-2025 Premier League Payrolls

Capology | Football Salaries & Finances

www.capology.com

Premier League | FBref.com

Check out {stat_type} for the 2024-2025 Premier League season.

fbref.com

Ranking every Premier League club by their wage bill in 2024-25

Premier League champions Emirates Marketing Project spend more on wages than Liverpool and Saudi Sportswashing Machine combined, according to industry estimates – while Manchester United have fallen to third in the Premier League wage bill table for 2024-25.

www.planetfootball.com

They all seem to suggest we're miles behind Arsenal's wage bill. What I never know is whether this is base salary and excludes bonuses. It's been mentioned before that Spurs have the highest bonus to base salary ratio.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

It would be if it was done when we are top 4 or 'on the cusp of being great' as it were.
ENIC seem to be hapy to splurge when it looks like we are falling back towards mid-table or have a fight to get top 4. Never seemingly when we ARE a top 4 team who - if the splurge is right - could become a title challenger. Which is why i question why anyone thinks this time will be any different.

Solanke is not a big name and we were in dire need of a number 9, hence why it's not as big a statement compared to if we already had an established and performing number 9 and we went and paid big for another one.

If you get a chance and find the published wages, i'd love to have a look. I'd be surprised if our top earners earn the same as their top earners, though it could be that our average is higher than theirs but the gap between their highest and lowest is bigger.

But we spent the money
That’s how it happens
Rice was West Ham player that they spent £100m on
He was a World Cup winner
The published wages are total wages by the way
Not by player

 

[glorygloryeze]

But we spent the money
That’s how it happens
Rice was West Ham player that they spent £100m on
He was a World Cup winner
The published wages are total wages by the way
Not by player

When we spend BIG to buy a player who will be in direct competition for players already established and who we don't have plans to immediately sell, then i'll think things really are changing.
We need a LB to compete with Udogie and a LCB to take the strain off MVDV plus someone to directly challenge Maddison and a REAL backup GK for Vicario. What odds that by February we get none of those?

 

[Bishop]

You think these kids are cheap???
How many times have arsenal paid £100m out?
Their wages are the same as ours now

We paid a premium for the kids but they are cheaper to purchase and their wages lower than the established versions (not a bad thing).

 

[Bishop]

I’d argue that the highest transfer in the summer would be a statement
But because Solanke isn’t a name….
No idea how much they earn but do know the published wages were very similar
And back on players
Beergvall was what.. £10m
Gray… £30m
Vuskovix… £12m
That is over £50m spent on players with an average age of 18

It's not because Solanke isn't a name it's because 65m comparatively isn't considered a massive fee anymore. If the same player had cost 100m the pressure on him right now from the press and fan base would be unbearable.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

When we spend BIG to buy a player who will be in direct competition for players already established and who we don't have plans to immediately sell, then i'll think things really are changing.
We need a LB to compete with Udogie and a LCB to take the strain off MVDV plus someone to directly challenge Maddison and a REAL backup GK for Vicario. What odds that by February we get none of those?

So we didn’t buy enough players?
We didn’t fix the squad in 2 windows
I agree with that
But that’s not what you said when you said cheap …
No team fixes their issues quickly
You would make plenty of bad decisions (we have seen that many times)
The plan is to bike the squad correctly

 

[Bedfordspurs]

It's not because Solanke isn't a name it's because 65m comparatively isn't considered a massive fee anymore. If the same player had cost 100m the pressure on him right now from the press and fan base would be unbearable.

But then that would be an obscene amount of money
I mean £65m isn’t cheap is it ?

 

[Bishop]

I can never get my head around this either. Take a look at these links

2024-2025 Premier League Payrolls

Capology | Football Salaries & Finances

www.capology.com

Premier League | FBref.com

Check out {stat_type} for the 2024-2025 Premier League season.

fbref.com

Ranking every Premier League club by their wage bill in 2024-25

Premier League champions Emirates Marketing Project spend more on wages than Liverpool and Saudi Sportswashing Machine combined, according to industry estimates – while Manchester United have fallen to third in the Premier League wage bill table for 2024-25.

www.planetfootball.com

They all seem to suggest we're miles behind Arsenal's wage bill. What I never know is whether this is base salary and excludes bonuses. It's been mentioned before that Spurs have the highest bonus to base salary ratio.

Its claimed by Tottenham fans. The claim is not based on any actual evidence and has just become a self fulfilling statement amongst the Tottenham online fan base.