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The Society of Black Lawyers...

Hootnow said:
As I said, until there is real equality between the races in professions like law, there will be groups like this to protect the interests. I'd rather there wasn't but that is the reality.

If the white lawyer population were to have a special set of interests to protect, then there would be every reason to set up such a group. But they don't and there isn't.

Anyway, I'm off to bed. Enjoy yourselves![/QUOTE]

night, night. :)
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So the whole equality line is coming back up again is it hoot. I'm sorry but that's the biggest cop out excuse of them all. There's equal opportunities to people who work hard to get jobs in law and to say that white kids/people have a better chance of getting one, in 2012, is damn right racist and pathetic in itself!! Absolute bollox.
 
Roy1983 said:
You wouldnt. Why would you need one for black lawyers though? You don't. Just have a society for lawyers.
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In an ideal world yes; perhaps 30 years down the line you would just have one society.
But the SBL is just an affilliation of lawyers in the UK who happen to be black and perhaps want to meet and exchange expertise etc.

Think of it like if you go to a foriegn country like Australia, Canada, Mexico etc, where there may be a group that offers support, advice etc for expats who decide to visit, relocate there etc.

You would have something named similarly here; it would not be called English expats support group, but just the localally named support service (e.g. Islington or Haringey information services NOT service for the support of English expats)
 
I've read elsewhere that the SBL is, in fact, virtually a one man band. It's Herbert's personal publicity vehicle. No black lawyer worth their salt would have anything to do with him.

They would, instead, join the Black Solicitors Network - a respectable organisation whose members, doubtless, are deeply ashamed by this Herbert and his silly, little antics.
 
parklane1 said:
i have no reasons to have a chip on my shoulder i believe everyone is equal no matter what colour or race, however its seems that the word racism is only used one way and for one side. Now i do not blame anyone for this but its one of the problems we will never solve until all are treated the same way by the word racism.
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On the whole I agree, but the reaction to what is essentially a support group for minorities, which if things improve race-wise (as they undoutably have since the days of 'no dog, no blacks, no irish') over the next 20-30 years will become almost unneccessary or just a 'golf club annual meet-up' group.

I don't get why people don't understand that a SBL would not exist in a country where the majority is black
 
glorygloryeze said:
In an ideal world yes; perhaps 30 years down the line you would just have one society.
But the SBL is just an affilliation of lawyers in the UK who happen to be black and perhaps want to meet and exchange expertise etc.

Think of it like if you go to a foriegn country like Australia, Canada, Mexico etc, where there may be a group that offers support, advice etc for expats who decide to visit, relocate there etc.

You would have something named similarly here; it would not be called English expats support group, but just the localally named support service (e.g. Islington or Haringey information services NOT service for the support of English expats)
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you really do not get it, ex pats around the world can be any colour so the comparison is completly different, a SBL is a totally different thing and is/can be seen as selective, and racist.
 
jimmyb said:
I've read elsewhere that the SBL is, in fact, virtually a one man band. It's Herbert's personal publicity vehicle. No black lawyer worth their salt would have anything to do with him.

They would, instead, join the Black Solicitors Network - a respectable organisation whose members, doubtless, are deeply ashamed by this Herbert and his silly, little antics.
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That does not surprise me. Herbert seems like a bellend as i've said.

No doubt the Black Solicitors Network would still affend other here...
 
parklane1 said:
you really do not get it, ex pats around the world can be any colour so the comparison is completly different, a SBL is a totally different thing and is/can be seen as selective, and racist.
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I do get it actually; let me ask you this: would you have the same issue with a 'Society of Ugandan Lawyers' or a 'Society of African Lawyers' or a 'Society of European Lawyers'?
 
Roy1983 said:
Oh so there's a black solicitors network too. Lol the plot thickens!
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Indeed.

But this organisation is kosher (if I am allowed to say that on this thread ;)).

A proper, professional body that isn't attention seeking or needlessly confrontational.
 
jimmyb said:
Indeed.

But this organisation is kosher (if I am allowed to say that on this thread ;)).

A proper, professional body that isn't attention seeking or needlessly confrontational.
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I'd have to disagree jimmy. The name of the organisation is confrontational, incites racial tension and needless IMO.
 
glorygloryeze said:
I do get it actually; let me ask you this: would you have the same issue with a 'Society of Ugandan Lawyers' or a 'Society of African Lawyers' or a 'Society of European Lawyers'?
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i do not have a issue with any group of individuals, my point is that is they can be a SBL and its not racist i would like to think they could be a SWL without that being called racist.

Now i doubt that would be the case, because before you know it some one would call it a racist organization and that is hypocritical.
 
Also, I love it when my name is brought up, along with marks, like we're too fudging racist nazis!! I can't speak for mark, although I'm almost certain he will agree, but I don't care what colour you are your either a nice person or a ****! It's that simple for me.

I have issues with certain things, such as has been outlined in this thread, but that's it.
 
parklane1 said:
i do not have a issue with any group of individuals, my point is that is they can be a SBL and its not racist i would like to think they could be a SWL without that being called racist.

Now i doubt that would be the case, because before you know it some one would call it a racist organization and that is hypocritical.
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My point is that there are several reasons why for a time there would/could be a use for an SBL (not that I knew there was one until now): to bridge the gaps in expertise/experience, as a mentoring organisation, to provide an umbrella organisationthat could perhaps challenge the institutional racism/curruption seen in the Stephen Lawrence investiagtion for example. I could provide other social-demographic issues as well, bit I wont bore everyone here.

Can you give me a reason why in a country that is overwhelmingly white, why somebody would want to set up a SWL? Am truly curious
 
Parklane agreed with me that you don't need a white one, black one or whatever one. Just one for lawyers. That's been answered.
 
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