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The midweek/weekend games thread

whos fatter?

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Some guy from OPTA was on Hawksbee and Jacobs earlier. Man United have gone 2-0 up something like 325 times and have never lost after going 2-0 up!!!
 
Tevez - Treated like a dog


Emirates Marketing Project striker blasts manager over Bayern bench row

By Rachel Griffiths - Follow me on Twitter @SkySportsRachG. Last Updated: February 13, 2012 9:58pm

Carlos Tevez has accused Emirates Marketing Project manager Roberto Mancini of treating him 'like a dog' during their infamous bench bust-up at Bayern Munich back in September.

The Argentina international has not featured for City since before that night, when he refused to warm-up against Bayern in the UEFA Champions League with Mancini's men losing 2-0.

He has spent the past couple of months AWOL back in his homeland after failing to secure a January move away from the club, with his City career appearing to be over.

However, the striker is due to return to England on Tuesday and Paul McCarthy, who is an advisor to Tevez's representative Kia Joorabchian, confirmed earlier on Monday recent discussions have paved the way for him to return to Mancini's squad.

"Mancini said some horrible things to me."
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The forward has broken his silence on the Bayern incident ahead of returning to Etihad Stadium and has hit out at the manager's treatment of him during the row.

Bad mood

Tevez claims he sat back down on the bench after warming up because he believed Mancini was employing a more defensive approach after taking off striker Edin Dzeko and replacing him with holding midfielder Nigel de Jong.


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"I was kind of in a bad mood and when (Mancini) brings on De Jong and takes off Dzeko, and we're losing 2-0, I thought it was a defensive substitution. So I decided to sit back on the bench," he said in an interview with Fox Sports in Argentina.

"So I'd already warmed up for 10 minutes and he has this attitude that he wants to lose 2-0 instead of 4-0.

"So I sat down and at the same time Dzeko comes off and is really angry and has a go at Mancini. He then sees the tunnel is closed so he has to sit down next to him and they start to have an argument.

"Dzeko was speaking Bosnian and Mancini would swear at him in Italian, so it was a real mess.

Foul mood

"So I go and sit down and he doesn't see me because he's having this discussion. But then he turns around and sees me and you can imagine what happens. He's in the middle of an argument.

"So then he tells me to keep on warming up and treats me like a dog. So when he spoke to me in that tone of voice I said 'no I'm not going out'.

"So I was willing to play but the coach was in such a foul mood, because he had that argument with Dzeko, he started on me as well, started swearing at me.

"That was him, because I was very calm. I was just sitting on the bench and you could see from the footage I was calm and just talking to (Pablo) Zabaleta. Mancini said some horrible things to me."

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11679/7519211/Tevez-Treated-like-a-dog




As much as I want us to be successful and establish ourselves as a top club - I also hope we never come to that day with players and managers swearing at each other like peasants during games. Poor.
 
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Chelsea players confront Andr?® Villas-Boas in training-ground row

David Hytner

guardian.co.uk, Monday 13 February 2012 22.59 GMT
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Chelsea's Andr?® Villas-Boas during a training session at the club's Cobham training ground earlier this season. Photograph: Darren Walsh/Chelsea FC via Getty Images


Andr?® Villas-Boas sparked a blazing row with some of his senior Chelsea players on Sunday after calling the squad in on their day off to vent his anger over the 2-0 defeat at Everton. The manager tore into his players, who had pockmarked their display with sloppy errors, but he found that some of them gave back as good as they got. In the blow-up, they told him exactly what they thought of him and his tactics, to lay bare the tensions at the club.

Villas-Boas believes that he has the support of the owner, Roman Abramovich, who was also present at the training ground on Sunday. Abramovich's focus is no longer consumed by his $5bn (?ú3.2bn) litigation battle with Boris Berezovsky – the high court hearing ended on 19 January and Mrs Justice Gloster is in the throes of writing her judgment – and he has been a regular at Cobham since the Saturday before last which, inevitably, has heightened the pressure on Villas-Boas. Abramovich, though, does not want to sack the young Portuguese, having taken the decision on his own to appoint him as the successor to Carlo Ancelotti last summer, and he shared in the manager's frustrations with the players.

The defeat at Goodison Park, which exacerbated the club's Premier League slump and dropped them out of the Champions League places, was, by comment consent, the team's worst performance of a season that has seen them fail to compete for the title. They lag 17 points behind the league leaders Emirates Marketing Project.

A big part of Villas-Boas's brief is to rejuvenate the Chelsea squad, to assimilate talented young players while still competing for silverware. He has maintained that a club of Chelsea's stature cannot tolerate mere transition. But, inevitably, he has found himself unpopular with the older guard, whom he feels he must phase out.

He caused a stir with his man-management when he banished Nicolas Anelka and Alex to train with the reserves, after they had requested transfers in December; the popular pair departed in January for Shanghai Shenhua and Paris St-Germain respectively. Villas-Boas has also clashed with Frank Lampard and Didier Drogba while even the high-profile January signing, Gary Cahill, has been left bewildered at his treatment. He has played only once in his five weeks at the club.

Chelsea's hopes of a trophy have come to rest on the FA Cup and Champions League – the latter is the one that Abramovich covets above all others – and their next two fixtures are in those competitions. They play Birmingham City in the FA Cup fifth round at Stamford Bridge on Saturday before they travel to Napoli for the Champions League last-16 first-leg next Tuesday. The captain, John Terry, hopes to return from a knee injury to face Birmingham, while Drogba and Salomon Kalou are due back on Wednesday from the Africa Cup of Nations.

The pressure in each tie will be intense, with the resentment towards Villas-Boas in some quarters adding further spice. Villas-Boas's assistant, Roberto Di Matteo, is also under scrutiny, with Abramovich picking up on the feeling during his visits to the training ground that the former Italy international is unpopular with the players. Abramovich turned to Villas-Boas after dismissing Ancelotti at the end of last season following, coincidentally, a Premier League defeat at Everton, having been impressed at how the 34-year-old won the treble of league, cup and Europa League with Porto. He is desperate for Villas-Boas to succeed, not least as firing him would call into question the wisdom of investing such faith in a talent without an extensive track record.

It is never prudent, though, to second-guess Abramovich, who has sacked five managers during his eight-and-a-half-year stewardship of the club. He dismissed Luiz Felipe Scolari in February 2009 when the club's membership of the Premier League's top four was in jeopardy. Villas-Boas is acutely aware of the need to qualify for next season's Champions League.

The fallout from Everton in the Chelsea dressing room also featured a candid assessment from the goalkeeper Petr Cech. "When you lose a game 2-0 and you are Chelsea football club, playing for the Champions League and with big expectations, losing is not good enough and the performance was not good enough. That's why we lost.

"We took so many passes side to side and we never really opened them up. In the second half, we tried to play more direct but they were fighting well and kept organised, and 1-0 up so early became so much more difficult to break."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/13/chelsea-players-andre-villas-boas-row?intcmp=239
 
Roy Carroll came on as a substitue for Olympiakos today and saved a penalty after their GK was sent off. Olympiakos won the game 1-0 away to Rubin Kazan.
 
Leverkusen: Leno, Schwaab, Reinartz, Friedrich, Ćorluka, Kadlec, Castro, Rolfes, Bender, Augusto, Sch??rrle
SUBS: Yelldell, Oczipka, Da Costa, Toprak, Ortega, Bellarabi, Kiessling.

Barcelona: Vald?®s, Alves, Puyol, Abidal, F?ábregas, Iniesta, Mascherano, Busquets, Adriano, S?ínchez, Messi
SUBS: Pinto, Bartra, Thiago, Dos Santos, Roberto, Pedro, Cuenca.
 
the Old Guard at Chelsea are stopping AVB from doing his job how he would like imo - they need to get rid of players like Terry and Lampard who have too much influence behind the scenes and start a fresh

but most likely he will get the boot and this will carry on for the next few seasons - which is to our benefit


could even see Abramovich tipping it gonads and selling up - it's gonna be hard work now with the FFP coming in too effect to turn that squad around. think Chelsea are in for a few years of mediocrity
 
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Watching the Leverkusen vs Barca match. As the camera panned the line-ups I saw Charlie and just thought 'What the fudge is he doing there?' Then I remembered and I saddened.
 
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I really dont know why teams dont just go all out attack against Barca. I am sure their defence is their weak spot.

I think Harry would go all out attack against them
 
Looking at how Barcelona press in midfield them seem to try and surround the ball when its in their own half. Seems to me if you have a winger hugging the touchline on the opposite flank to where the ball is, you should effectively be able to switch the play blind because the entire Barca team defends so narrowly with he exception of the full back
 
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