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The "If we go down" thread

treepits said:
Well if we went down our starting 11 first day of next season would be vastly different to if we stay up so need to take that into account

After reading your post I checked on Leeds who got relegated in 2004 and I bet a large proportion of their fans thought they’d bounce straight back. They eventually came back to prem in 2020 so 16 years incl 3 in league one

Not saying that will happen to us but in no way is relegation anything but a disaster

I agree we need a reset which has to happen relegation or not
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Leeds were unwinding the financial gamble of trying to make the CL without the sustained revenue to underpin that push. We’ll be in a much healthier position, hopefully a position of strength relative to the rest of the league, and with a cohort of young players who can lay the foundation of a new culture because the one in our first team right now has been utterly broken.

We will have to get the right manager and the right Championship experience around them to handle all the games. But I really think there is something to a much needed reset. It is frankly insane that we are talking like this after the vibes we saw at the parade not even a year ago, but here we are. The first team is rotten, and it needs rooting out.
 
billyiddo said:
Take away the banter & humiliation and a year in the Championship has a lot to offer as an experience.

After the last two years I think I'd prefer a reset than an endless circling of the drain year after year. Like pulling off a plaster theres something to be said for getting it over and done with as quick as possible.
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I have to say, as much as I do not want this to happen, it will absolutely be the line I immediately adopt if it does.
 
I think best to accept it, if it happens, and we’d get rid of players that don’t want to be here. I’d be gutted to lose some of those that I named earlier. But, it’s football, players move on, the club stays. We’ve lost a lot better players than we have here now, I mean that’s kinda why we’re in this mess. But we keep moving. If I can be in a strong career role by end season then, if offered a season ticket, I’d be tempted to buy one.

Also ultimately, so what if we’re not under the lights in the highest glamour. Ultimately you want to watch your team play matches and hopefully win and to an extent it’s irrelevant which competition. Do you really think lower league club supporters enjoy their wins any less than those that support Premier League clubs?!

This might also allow for the supporters to become connected with the team again. We will have players that want to be here and it will be clear. And supporters who will give their all as they’ve stuck with us at the darkest of recent times.

So no, I don’t want it to happen. But if it does I will be loud and still support us until my last day, whatever league we play in.
 
Daisuk said:
Lincoln away! It’ll be exotic. I’m quite looking forward to it!
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Our derbies will be Millwall (if they don't go up) Charlton (if they don't go down) and QPR.
billyiddo said:
Take away the banter & humiliation and a year in the Championship has a lot to offer as an experience.

After the last two years I think I'd prefer a reset than an endless circling of the drain year after year. Like pulling off a plaster theres something to be said for getting it over and done with as quick as possible.
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This is where I'm at now, the hardest of resets and pray big lessons learnt or new owners.
 
FolkestoneSpur said:
Our derbies will be Millwall (if they don't go up) Charlton (if they don't go down) and QPR.

This is where I'm at now, the hardest of resets and pray big lessons learnt or new owners.
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I was about to say Leicester, but they seem to be going even further down! Damn. I've been to both Millwall and QPR! QPR being quite docile, and Millwall utterly crazy. Millwall will be interesting, I reckon. Been a long time since we played Charlton.

Would love for us to stay up, obviously, but really preparing for us to go down. I just don't see us staying up. I fear us doing more of the same when we're down, but I feel quite optimistic it'll be allright for us eventually.
 
Daisuk said:
I was about to say Leicester, but they seem to be going even further down! Damn. I've been to both Millwall and QPR! QPR being quite docile, and Millwall utterly crazy. Millwall will be interesting, I reckon. Been a long time since we played Charlton.

Would love for us to stay up, obviously, but really preparing for us to go down. I just don't see us staying up. I fear us doing more of the same when we're down, but I feel quite optimistic it'll be allright for us eventually.
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Yeah I'm resigned to it now so the only way to go is to put a positive spin.
I love Loftus Road but so small there won't be many away tickets available.
I've been to Millwall a few times over the years the last being a pre season friendly around 2003 and a we got rushed by about 200 of them as we came out of the away end and two Spurs fans got chucked on the tracks at South Bermondsey, lovely bunch.
 
If I’m completely honest, despite the lack of prestige plus the gargantuan amounts of brick well all have to take, I may enjoy watching the games more if we do get relegated given how utterly dull and VAR-ridden the PL games have become.

Plus we would clear out much of the players I have zero affection for and allow us to incorporate academy players who I genuinely hope can rebuild our identity and club culture.

Controversial, maybe, but I don’t know how much more of the past few years I can take at this point.
 
Why are we assuming we would lose so many players? There may be players unhappy to play a level down but I very much doubt for one season we will be under any pressure to sell anyone we don’t want to (think Villa rejecting us on Grealish). Of course the longer we stay down then that changes without investment but it’s a moot point anyways as not going to happen.

Until it’s mathematically impossible I will continue to cheer these self destructive players in the hope they actually start playing, besides I think we are just planning to emulate Leicester - nearly get regulated then win the league the next year 😂
 
On the basis that we would come straight back up (not guaranteed of course) if we were to be relegated (and I still can’t bring myself to accept it will actually happen) then I really don’t want to lose all my hard earned points by giving up my ST and going to 0 OH points. But I don’t want to pay a PL price for it.
 
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robp135 said:
Yep only Donely & Yang have had poor seasons.
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Yang was doing alright at Pompey, they liked him there.

Donley didn’t get a kick at Stoke, completely frozen out, moved to Oxford, got injured and has only just become available again in the last few weeks where he’s been a starter. (But yea you can class it as a poor season so far for him I guess)
 
robp135 said:
Thoughts on how will players like Van de Ven, Romero, Porro, Vicario be looked at as returning players in 20 years time if relegated would it ruin the legacy built in Bilbao?
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With ambivalence - saying thanks for the trophy and shake their hand, while giving them a good kick in the nuts for the relegation.

I think the fact that we'd have gone down though would far outweigh the success of Bilbao.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
On the basis that we would come straight back up (not guaranteed of course) if we were to be relegated (and I still can’t bring myself to accept it will actually happen) then I really don’t want to lose all my hard earned points by giving up my ST and going to 0 OH points. But I don’t want to pay a PL price for it.
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Would you renew if they don't drop the price?

I was intending to post that it'd be incredibly tone deaf and unfair on fans if they kept prices the same but now I'm not so sure. Took at look at Championship STs and they are up to £1,000 at the higher end (at Middlesbrough and Leeds when they were in). I could see the club citing more games, better facilities and a London premium for not dropping the price.

Rough back of a fag packet calculations, they bring in about £50m a season from season tickets. Would they be willing to forgo some of that revenue as a gesture of goodwill for fudging the club up?
 
DeanoAustin said:
Would you renew if they don't drop the price?

I was intending to post that it'd be incredibly tone deaf and unfair on fans if they kept prices the same but now I'm not so sure. Took at look at Championship STs and they are up to £1,000 at the higher end (at Middlesbrough and Leeds when they were in). I could see the club citing more games, better facilities and a London premium for not dropping the price.

Rough back of a fag packet calculations, they bring in about £50m a season from season tickets. Would they be willing to forgo some of that revenue as a gesture of goodwill for fudging the club up?
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I reckon I will renew even if the price isn’t dropped when it comes down to the wire (and I know that’s what the club will rely on) but won’t be happy unless there is some incentive. Extra LPs, certain # of cup games included etc.
But I’m still desperately hoping this is a moot discussion and we’ll do just enough to save ourselves.
 
WillWeEverBeGoodAgain said:
Will be plenty of away tickets for all

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The championship is so much better for potential away fixtures if you unfortunately live in the Midlands like I do.

I still don't think it'll happen but my mind may change after heading down to see the Forest game, I haven't watched the recent games. A combination of a long holiday and starts at 5 in the morning plus 3pm Saturday kick offs where I can't seem to find a stream haven't helped. It doesn't quite work like this but we've seen some super poor Everton / West Ham teams that looked destined to go down, are we actually worse than those teams?

Either way, if it happens it's a new experience. Much like watching us win a European trophy last season. It would seem a bit weak to accept the good times gratefully and walk away when it's a bit brick. I understand that the brickness has been happening for quite some time and hits the season ticket holders that go game in game out so I don't want to judge people for taking a step back, especially as it's such an investment of time and energy.

There's no divine right to be good and I'm not as emotionally linked to our results as I used to be, gobbrick that I am, I usually don the spurs gear after we've lost (ample opportunities to do so!) to make a point. My Dad is a Spurs fan, as was his before him, I've got a lovely c0ck and ball tattoo alongside our latin motto and whilst tattoo removal is regrettably an actual thing, I know I'm Spurs for life and will roll with the punches. For me it's always been a fascinating club to support, never run of the mill (having started to really get into football and the club properly during Redknapp's reign) - unless we fold and disappear as an entity, there'll never be another club I'd rather support. It's real life and brick happens, some of it easy to process, some of it takes a bit longer.
 
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