Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Whatever field cook had set, whichever bowler he had picked and whenever Cook had declared it would have been wrong in the eyes of Warne.
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Whatever field cook had set, whichever bowler he had picked and whenever Cook had declared it would have been wrong in the eyes of Warne.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Why is the fat prick even commentating, he adds nothing to the normally fantastic coverage
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
England do well to get the Indians 8 down and still 250 behind, I doubt we will enforce the follow on
Notmegov
Roman Pavlyuchenko
Modern teams never do, as the Geoffrey was saying on TMS these boys are meant to be fitter than ever but they cant bowl for more than one innings at a time.
Shame i used to love a good follow on.
Hully
Tony Parks
All we're achieving by batting again is giving India an opportunity to bat out the draw.
Poor decision. Bowlers were fresh this morning, should have put them straight back in.
Got to really get the hammer down now, need to declare an hour before tea. India quite capable of batting for three sessions on this pitch.
Poor decision. Bowlers were fresh this morning, should have put them straight back in.
Got to really get the hammer down now, need to declare an hour before tea. India quite capable of batting for three sessions on this pitch.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Cook is a tad negative as was Strauss before him, England 80/1 off 19 overs though so batting well, 320 in front, bat for an hour tops after lunch then set the Indians 400 to win is what I'd do
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Broad is injured and it shows, Anderson isn't as young as he was either.
The new bowlers have to steep up. Jordan isn't giving me any confidence.
It was the right decision to not enforce the follow on. Allowed us to rest and regroup before the final innings.
I get this, but will those few extra hours rest make such a difference i'm not so sure. Anyway, by all accounts we did well yesterday getting four wickets and should wrap this up. If we don't, Cook will be under intense pressure.
Re: New bowlers. Moeen has the knack of grabbing wickets at the important times, Jordan has slipped.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
2 early wickets for Jimmy, 6 down...
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
9 down now, Ali rampant !!!!!
LutonSpurs
Eric Dear
I was livid when he didn't enforce the follow on but Cook proved me wrong. He had an excellent game as captain, got nothing wrong. And also what an inspired bowling performance from Ali.
LutonSpurs
Eric Dear
Haha. I actually had no hope for him and still don't think he is a good captain but I don't see any alternative at all.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Jason Roy of Surrey is some player in the one day game, he plays 360 degree cricket shots, hope he gets a chance with England soon, he deserves it
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
India moaning as usual, they are the Ferrari of cricket, always moaning always sulking if they dont get their own way, it took 10 mins to declare Jimmy not guilty, pathetic to get that far
India are shocked that James Anderson has been found not guilty in the Trent Bridge incident involving Ravindra Jadeja, but the case boiled down to one team's word against the other when it became clear crucial video evidence was not available.
The alleged pushing incident took place in the only small corridor that was not monitored by the ICC's Anti Corruption and Security Unit (ACSU) cameras, a fact the BCCI is now likely to raise with the ICC. There was no video evidence presented by the ICC, who was prosecuting Anderson in this case, to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Anderson had pushed Jadeja without provocation. However, once the BCCI had laid the charge, the ICC had no option but to take up the case against Anderson.
Anderson has admitted to pushing Jadeja - by the fact that the ECB did not contest that element of Jadeja's initial hearing - but his case rested on his version that he acted in self-defence after Jadeja allegedly turned around aggressively towards him. The BCCI lawyers were present at the hearing, but they were allowed to cross-examine the witnesses only in the appeal against the guilty verdict for Jadeja, which they got overturned successfully.
England added Stuart Broad to the witnesses that appeared in the Jadeja hearing: Matt Prior and Ben Stokes. India had their physiotherapist, Evan Speechly, present at the case in addition to Gautam Gambhir and R Ashwin. The hearing went on for over six hours, but some of the time went into sorting technical glitches with the judicial commissioner Gordon Lewis sitting in on the hearing via video link from Australia.
The incident happened as the players were walking off for lunch on the second day of the Trent Bridge Test. In the last over before lunch, Jadeja had survived an appeal for a catch at the wicket off the bowling of Anderson, after which the bowler was seen having a word with Jadeja. The chirping continued on the way back to the pavilion. The players walked up the stairs through the crowd, then into a narrow corridor - where the incident is said to have happened - and then through a staircase into the individual changing rooms.
The ICC's ACSU camera captured the players walking up the stairs through the crowd, and Speechly coming down the staircase from the dressing room with Dhoni at the edge of the steps. The said video was played at the hearing. However, there is no footage from the corridor that connects the two staircases. Witnesses present at the hearing confirmed that the incident took place in that corridor. The BCCI is going to take up with the ICC the issue of this area not being covered by the ACSU, but ESPNcricinfo could not independently verify if this corridor indeed is a Players and Match Officials (PMO) area, which has to be monitored by the ICC.
There was a camera in place there, but it is not clear if the camera was the ICC's or Nottinghamshire's or the host broadcaster's. At times in England, during the Lord's Test against South Africa in 2012 for example, Sky TV has shown players walking out from just outside their dressing room all the way through the long room and corridors and onto the field. The commissioner heard that the said camera at Trent Bridge was not working that day. The BCCI is likely to pursue this issue.
At the current moment, the fact remains that there is no video evidence of what happened in the corridor. That being the case, it all came down to one team's word against the other. India remained adamant that Jadeja was not at fault, and that he did not turn around aggressively, and was only reacting to abuse from Anderson. That was the reason why they appealed the earlier guilty verdict against Jadeja, and got it overturned.
Anderson admitted to having had an altercation with Jadeja, but contended he did so in self-defence. The witnesses put up by England were consistent in their response. They were called in to testify separately, and ESPNcricinfo understands their versions were almost identical.
A detailed judgement is yet to be delivered, and the BCCI refused to comment until it had seen the detailed verdict. However, it has no right to appeal because it was the ICC's case once the charge was laid. The only man who has the right to appeal now is Dave Richardson, the ICC CEO.
If he does appeal, the ICC's legal head will appoint an Appeal Panel comprising three members from the ICC's Code of Conduct commission. However, Lewis' decision will remain in effect while under appeal, unless the Appeal Panel orders otherwise.
India are shocked that James Anderson has been found not guilty in the Trent Bridge incident involving Ravindra Jadeja, but the case boiled down to one team's word against the other when it became clear crucial video evidence was not available.
The alleged pushing incident took place in the only small corridor that was not monitored by the ICC's Anti Corruption and Security Unit (ACSU) cameras, a fact the BCCI is now likely to raise with the ICC. There was no video evidence presented by the ICC, who was prosecuting Anderson in this case, to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Anderson had pushed Jadeja without provocation. However, once the BCCI had laid the charge, the ICC had no option but to take up the case against Anderson.
Anderson has admitted to pushing Jadeja - by the fact that the ECB did not contest that element of Jadeja's initial hearing - but his case rested on his version that he acted in self-defence after Jadeja allegedly turned around aggressively towards him. The BCCI lawyers were present at the hearing, but they were allowed to cross-examine the witnesses only in the appeal against the guilty verdict for Jadeja, which they got overturned successfully.
England added Stuart Broad to the witnesses that appeared in the Jadeja hearing: Matt Prior and Ben Stokes. India had their physiotherapist, Evan Speechly, present at the case in addition to Gautam Gambhir and R Ashwin. The hearing went on for over six hours, but some of the time went into sorting technical glitches with the judicial commissioner Gordon Lewis sitting in on the hearing via video link from Australia.
The incident happened as the players were walking off for lunch on the second day of the Trent Bridge Test. In the last over before lunch, Jadeja had survived an appeal for a catch at the wicket off the bowling of Anderson, after which the bowler was seen having a word with Jadeja. The chirping continued on the way back to the pavilion. The players walked up the stairs through the crowd, then into a narrow corridor - where the incident is said to have happened - and then through a staircase into the individual changing rooms.
The ICC's ACSU camera captured the players walking up the stairs through the crowd, and Speechly coming down the staircase from the dressing room with Dhoni at the edge of the steps. The said video was played at the hearing. However, there is no footage from the corridor that connects the two staircases. Witnesses present at the hearing confirmed that the incident took place in that corridor. The BCCI is going to take up with the ICC the issue of this area not being covered by the ACSU, but ESPNcricinfo could not independently verify if this corridor indeed is a Players and Match Officials (PMO) area, which has to be monitored by the ICC.
There was a camera in place there, but it is not clear if the camera was the ICC's or Nottinghamshire's or the host broadcaster's. At times in England, during the Lord's Test against South Africa in 2012 for example, Sky TV has shown players walking out from just outside their dressing room all the way through the long room and corridors and onto the field. The commissioner heard that the said camera at Trent Bridge was not working that day. The BCCI is likely to pursue this issue.
At the current moment, the fact remains that there is no video evidence of what happened in the corridor. That being the case, it all came down to one team's word against the other. India remained adamant that Jadeja was not at fault, and that he did not turn around aggressively, and was only reacting to abuse from Anderson. That was the reason why they appealed the earlier guilty verdict against Jadeja, and got it overturned.
Anderson admitted to having had an altercation with Jadeja, but contended he did so in self-defence. The witnesses put up by England were consistent in their response. They were called in to testify separately, and ESPNcricinfo understands their versions were almost identical.
A detailed judgement is yet to be delivered, and the BCCI refused to comment until it had seen the detailed verdict. However, it has no right to appeal because it was the ICC's case once the charge was laid. The only man who has the right to appeal now is Dave Richardson, the ICC CEO.
If he does appeal, the ICC's legal head will appoint an Appeal Panel comprising three members from the ICC's Code of Conduct commission. However, Lewis' decision will remain in effect while under appeal, unless the Appeal Panel orders otherwise.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
So its ok for the Aussies to do it all winter, get in our faces, sledgingand it worked brilliantly so fair playbut poor old India dont like it so keep moaning boo hoo hoo
Jimmy to take the most wickets and be MoM for me and an England win too
Cricket chiefs have told Jimmy Anderson to stop sledging although they have decided not to reopen the case against him despite pressure from India.
The England bowler was cleared last week of a level three charge, which could have brought a four‑match suspension, for his alleged involvement in the incident with India all-rounder Ravi Jadeja in the Trent Bridge pavilion during last month’s First Test.
India were so unhappy with the decision of judicial commissioner Gordon Lewis that they wrote to the International Cricket Council expressing their dissatisfaction.
Chief executive David Richardson had the power to appeal against that verdict but has chosen not to.
Richardson said: “This outcome is the result of two exhaustive and thorough disciplinary processes and, after considering the written decision, the ICC is satisfied with the manner in which the decisions have been reached.
“After carefully considering the decision by Gordon Lewis, whose vast experience was invaluable to the process over recent weeks, we believe that no further purpose would be served by prolonging the process through further appeal proceedings.”
There was no doubt, however, that Anderson swore at Jadeja during the session that preceded the flare-up and Richardson reminded those involved to be more careful about their behavior.
He added: “There is no place in the game for the use of offensive language that is insulting of one player by another. It is imperative that all captains, players and coaches as well as umpires and referees are reminded of and do not shirk their responsibility to one another and to the game.”
Ian Bell, however, insists England will make no apology for their verbal aggression in the series. Ahead of the Fourth Investec Test, which starts at Old Trafford tomorrow, Bell made it clear that England would not be taking a step back.
“It’s a tough environment in the middle and there’s always been a bit [of abuse],” said Bell. “We’ve all copped it in our careers; we’ve all said and received things. Test cricket is a tough environment and sometimes you have to earn respect.
“Certainly for me as a young player, I got taught a lesson by one of the best of all time [Australia spinner Shane Warne] and you earn respect. That’s how it should be. You wouldn’t want it to be easy out there.
“He noticed I was a young player, he put pressure on me to affect my performance and he did.
“From Jimmy’s point of view and the point of view of the players involved in it, they’ll do what they’ve done over the past couple of weeks, put it aside and focus on the cricket.
“The way Jimmy handled everything was an incredible effort. I’m sure he’ll do exactly the same in this Test.”
Jimmy to take the most wickets and be MoM for me and an England win too
Cricket chiefs have told Jimmy Anderson to stop sledging although they have decided not to reopen the case against him despite pressure from India.
The England bowler was cleared last week of a level three charge, which could have brought a four‑match suspension, for his alleged involvement in the incident with India all-rounder Ravi Jadeja in the Trent Bridge pavilion during last month’s First Test.
India were so unhappy with the decision of judicial commissioner Gordon Lewis that they wrote to the International Cricket Council expressing their dissatisfaction.
Chief executive David Richardson had the power to appeal against that verdict but has chosen not to.
Richardson said: “This outcome is the result of two exhaustive and thorough disciplinary processes and, after considering the written decision, the ICC is satisfied with the manner in which the decisions have been reached.
“After carefully considering the decision by Gordon Lewis, whose vast experience was invaluable to the process over recent weeks, we believe that no further purpose would be served by prolonging the process through further appeal proceedings.”
There was no doubt, however, that Anderson swore at Jadeja during the session that preceded the flare-up and Richardson reminded those involved to be more careful about their behavior.
He added: “There is no place in the game for the use of offensive language that is insulting of one player by another. It is imperative that all captains, players and coaches as well as umpires and referees are reminded of and do not shirk their responsibility to one another and to the game.”
Ian Bell, however, insists England will make no apology for their verbal aggression in the series. Ahead of the Fourth Investec Test, which starts at Old Trafford tomorrow, Bell made it clear that England would not be taking a step back.
“It’s a tough environment in the middle and there’s always been a bit [of abuse],” said Bell. “We’ve all copped it in our careers; we’ve all said and received things. Test cricket is a tough environment and sometimes you have to earn respect.
“Certainly for me as a young player, I got taught a lesson by one of the best of all time [Australia spinner Shane Warne] and you earn respect. That’s how it should be. You wouldn’t want it to be easy out there.
“He noticed I was a young player, he put pressure on me to affect my performance and he did.
“From Jimmy’s point of view and the point of view of the players involved in it, they’ll do what they’ve done over the past couple of weeks, put it aside and focus on the cricket.
“The way Jimmy handled everything was an incredible effort. I’m sure he’ll do exactly the same in this Test.”
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
India win the toss and bat, they are 8-4 off 5 overs hahahahahahahahaha