No but the good thing about this ITK is that is pretty clear - no 'will be signing' or other stuff which can be backtracked from - papers submitted to the FA and PL. A done deal
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Summer transfer thread, AvB window wrap up pg 1527
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No but the good thing about this ITK is that is pretty clear - no 'will be signing' or other stuff which can be backtracked from - papers submitted to the FA and PL. A done deal
paxtonwolf
Tony Marchi
Totally agree. A lot of the stuff is pretty much, yeah whatever, pinch of salt. But that tweet had a very positive vibe to it
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
And as I tried (and probably failed) to impress upon you was that while he indeed could work and is a quality player (never any argument) who could well work ok in the system (again never any argument) would he be *as good* as an ideal lone front man?
IMO, and explicit NO. So it seems foolhardy to go for a compromise while there is still time to get the 10/10 made for the system man.
Also, as an aside, Im not sure there is a significant difference in style to Defoe. Accepted he has a bit more about him, more quality, but essentially you have in each a slightly built finisher, and not a terrific amount else.
Defoe is widely accepted as not a fit for the style of play being implemented. Even after Saturday, after scoring there was plenty of comment to the effect "Adebayor and Modric instead of Defoe and Livermore and we would have swept them away"
So why would Hernandez represent progression for the side? Even as 100% improvement on Defoe (not convinced) would he actually be worth it?
IMO, and explicit NO. So it seems foolhardy to go for a compromise while there is still time to get the 10/10 made for the system man.
Also, as an aside, Im not sure there is a significant difference in style to Defoe. Accepted he has a bit more about him, more quality, but essentially you have in each a slightly built finisher, and not a terrific amount else.
Defoe is widely accepted as not a fit for the style of play being implemented. Even after Saturday, after scoring there was plenty of comment to the effect "Adebayor and Modric instead of Defoe and Livermore and we would have swept them away"
So why would Hernandez represent progression for the side? Even as 100% improvement on Defoe (not convinced) would he actually be worth it?
He's lost a lot of hair, mate - not sure anymore
What do you guys think about Adam Johnson? I wasn't a huge fan of where he fit until I thought about it today. This lineup looks pretty tasty for games against lesser sides. And when we go up against the big guns, we can easily slot Parker in for Johnson/Lennon and move Siggurdson forward. GS would rotate w/ VDV in this system.
-------------Friedel----------------
Walker---Kab---Vert---------BAE
--------Sandro-----Siggy---------
Lennon---Bale------------Johnson
----------Ade-------------------
-------------Friedel----------------
Walker---Kab---Vert---------BAE
--------Sandro-----Siggy---------
Lennon---Bale------------Johnson
----------Ade-------------------
I already explained (previously) why in my view he is nothing like Defoe - besides the apparent superiority
You see it as a compromise - I see it as options, overall squad quality imvprovement and tactical versatility (upfront)
Not going down this loop again, nope
Ginola99
Steven Caulker
Even if he did fancy a move, he wont once he has spoke to Gio.... Forget about it..
milo
Jack L. Jones
If we signed Johnson, I think that he would be in as cover/replacement for Lennon
Charlie
Radek Cerny
Hernandez is now 3rd choice target man for ManU. RVP and Wellbeck are 1 and 2. Rooney sometimes play there as well.
El Guepardo
Rafael Van Der Vaart
He plays on the left, he plays on the left, Gareth Bale he plays on the left!
The fact Welbeck is ahead is beyond me
rotate Bale, Lennon and JOhnson. Mid-case no of games per season: 38 PL games + 10 EL + 4 FAC + 4 CC = 56 games =112 winger starts. Thats 37 each for 3 wingers plus sub appearance plus internationals....thats enough
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
"Options" suggest squad unit, not first 11 starter. Cant see him going for that, nor can I see us thinking it worth getting him in in that capacity
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Honestly Im just not a fan. He has no sense and no team ethic.
Lots of skill, no doubt, and will get goals (the odd spectacular) but he just doesnt contribute IMo and spends to much time running up blind alleys
Wriggly
Banned
He's a barbie girl, in a barbie wooooorrrld.
he strikes me as the type to be happy with being 3rd choice at Manchester United over a starter elsewhere
Charlie
Radek Cerny
From what I have seen, Hernandez is only good in the box. He is not effective outside of the box. His hold-up play and passing are not as good as Welbeck.
It does not suggest that at all - look at SAF's management of his strike force over the years - quite possibly the most successful example of optimum squad roation
Are you honestly suggesting having only one good striker, playing the exact same formation, week in and out as the optimum solution? Besides the fact we'd be easily found out - what if 'he' is injured or suspended. Or the opponent requires a 'special' touch. Sorry, not buying that logic. Isn't that one of the main reasons Arry was rebelled against in the end?