have you just snuck Cirkin in again!?
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Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Of course. It just makes so much sense. And in the last 18 months of his contract too, so wont be expensive. We could even loan them Regulion back as a sweetner
Muttley
Terry Yorath
Where I'm a little confused is that the league stage now finishes end of Jan anyway.
So I assume we can't change the UEFA squad until Feb. At that point we'll know about any long term injuries and transfers / loans as well.
I have a feeling things will take care of themselves naturally with the UEFA squad.
So I assume we can't change the UEFA squad until Feb. At that point we'll know about any long term injuries and transfers / loans as well.
I have a feeling things will take care of themselves naturally with the UEFA squad.
Muttley
Terry Yorath
Why would Reggie agree to that? He'll be on a one-way flight to Spain would be my guess.
I need to see more of Cirkin.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Knockout European football has started in February for quite a while. I think registration was always start of February after the transfer window.
Will be interesting to see if we see much movement. Perhaps particularly outgoings as that will pretty much be necessary to get incomings registered to the EL squad and other than Reguilon (who isn't EL registered anyway) and maybe potentially Werner there's not a lot of obvious "should be sold" players in the squad for the first time in quite a while.
Steff mentioned before the need for some perhaps surprising sales, but that's probably more for the summer.
Muttley
Terry Yorath
Yeah, but normally there is a gap from mid-Dec until Feb so you never worry about these things until transfer window is over.
The surprise sales would be around Biss or Bents in my opinion. Both have 18 months left on their contracts, but it's possible we have the 1-year extension option. Romero might be the other.
No news on Sonny yet either. He's out of contract this summer but we would need to trigger the one-year extension clause if not offer him more.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
If we're talking about the summer Bissouma or Bentancur wouldn't surprise me. If we want to bring in a new DM one pretty much has to go and close between the two of them.
Would surprise me if we wanted to sell Romero (pretty much at any point), but wouldn't surprise me if we were forced into a sale.
Vicario, Udogie, VdV, Romero, Porro, Sarr, Kulusevski, Maddison, Son, Solanke and Johnson would surprise me. As well as the teenagers (Odobert, Bergvall, Gray, Moore). Not saying I want them sold, but Spence, Dragusin, Richarlison and I guess Davies wouldn't really surprise me. Along with Forster and Werner not being signed permanently who I think are the most likely to leave.
Will be interesting to see if we're in for a surprise on this front or not.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
He's not a free agent till June though. So he could keep being a training cone for us for 6 more months, or he could go and win the league with Sunderland. I know which would get him the contract with the better Spanish club for next season
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I dont think we'll sell anyone in Jan. Only perhaps if we can convert a loan to perm - Gil, Solomon, Craig etc. Maybe find Whiteman a club now he's able to do a medical
Muttley
Terry Yorath
More likely, we'll just settle with Reggie like we've done with Aurier and Tanguy. You don't normally see a loan in the last 6 months. We just get them shifted one way or another under this new regime.
I reckon if we want Cirkin, we would buy him and leave him at Sunderland. I don't think we do want him though. lol - the only smoke signals we see on him rejoining is from you
More likely, we'll just settle with Reggie like we've done with Aurier and Tanguy. You don't normally see a loan in the last 6 months. We just get them shifted one way or another under this new regime.
I reckon if we want Cirkin, we would buy him and leave him at Sunderland. I don't think we do want him though. lol - the only smoke signals we see on him rejoining is from you
Dier?
Muttley
Terry Yorath
Yeah, good point. I guess we do in certain circumstances. Dier was a very loyal servant to our club and I'm sure BM covered the wages and the signing on fee, and made it very palatable. My guess is we'd still have fancied a £5m transfer fee though.
The same thought process will apply to Reggie. We're not just going to send him out on loan and pay half the wages.
It would still work out cheaper than paying his contract up in full. We'll see what happens. Feel sorry for him injuries and the mrsa bug damaged his chances.
Muttley
Terry Yorath
When did Reggie have MRSA? That was completely missed by me in our recent history.
I had it a few years back. It was a nightmare.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
On loan in Spain
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Tapas?
When on loan. Atletico i believe. Got a slight injury. Went to hospital and caught the bug. Almost died.
Muttley
Terry Yorath
I got Community Associated MRSA. Didn't even catch mine from hospital.
Just shows how dumb the human species is. We stopped using the strongest drugs on humans so the staph's don't mutate into something stronger and we won't therefore have any stronger drugs left to fight them. So instead we feed the stronger drugs to the animals to keep our food chain going. Then watch as the super-staphs form in animals and jump across and infect the human species anyway.
Anyway, back to football. Did make me laugh that Ange is playing the "having to pick 16 year olds" narrative when he has everyone from Reggie down through the U21s and U18s to pick. No Ange, you chose to and probably broke some young football hearts by doing it.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Perhaps Ange thought those 16 year old were the best players to pick... Not necessarily the best here and now, but those that most deserved it and would be most boosted in their development by being picked.
He probably couldn't say that, but in a way picking Reguilon as he did says more about how short we are than any 16 year old being included.
On our squad... Spence, Gray, Bergvall, Lankshear, Werner (though he started against Fulham). Those are pretty much the squad players we have available now I think... Time for one or two of them to step up...
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Copied this over from the Roma thread (and removed the Roma game specifics).
Agreed that we're paying for previous poor squad building. Conte, Mourinho and late stage Pochettino period essentially developed no home grown players.
Had we signed another LB we would be in the same position as with Spence, unless it was a club trained player.
Had we not loaned Werner for example, registered Spence instead. Or just registered Spence instead of Werner we would be so short up front now. Son needs minutes off the pitch, that's just reality right now I think. We need that additional option wide left because he needs rotation.
The only real solution is developing academy players, along with signing younger players that can become home grown and club trained. But that takes time, and money. And some of that development time will probably have to happen here and not only out on loan.
Think we could see Bergvall loaned out in the second half of the season. But that only frees up space for Spence. Another new signing would need another slot. Then we'd have a similar headache next summer assuming Bergvall develops well enough to then be in our squad (as we hope).
You've said before tough decisions will be needed. I don't think loaning out Bergvall will be "tough enough".
Right now though the "tough decision" for me would be trust Bergvall, Gray, Spence and Moore (when back from illness). Then reevaluate come January. But I'd rather start making the tougher decisions in January than wait until the summer on transfers out (and following that transfers in).