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So, what happened today?

LutonSpurs said:
He's not anyone's hero. He's trying to appeal to the vote of people like yourself. Who are angry about nothing.
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Not sure he really needs to do that. They’ve just won an election pretty handily. More likely he has read the room of the country and the majority of people would agree with the supreme court’s decision.
 
LutonSpurs said:
A majority doesn't make it right. A majority is people who believe the lies the Sun and the Mail peddle daily.
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But it doesn’t always come from bigotry or with bad intentions which is often the implication in these debates. The vast majority of people in this country are tolerant people, I honestly believe that. You also have to consider that this is relatively new territory and attitudes don’t change overnight. It took time for gay marriage to become the law of the land. Now you see gay/lesbian couples on tv all the time in adverts and in tv shows which I see as a sign of progress, admittedly with work still to be done.
 
Today, St George's Day, where we celebrate the Turkish migrant worker who never came to Britain

He'd be banned from Britain now, actually

Always fascinated at how the patron saint of England had never visited England

St George was born in Cappadocia, Turkey. He was killed by Roman Emperor Diocletian for refusing to denounce Christianity and instead worship the Roman gods in 303 AD

By the 5th century, churches were being dedicated to him in Jerusalem, Egypt, and Syria

By the 6th century, his name appeared in Christian texts across Europe, and he was revered as a military saint, a protector of soldiers and defenders of the faith

Churches in his name were established in the region, and St. George became the patron saint of many Palestinian Christian communities

During the 11th-13th century crusades, English knights fighting in the Holy Land heard stories of St George appearing in visions to help Christian armies. He was seen as a divine warrior—ideal for a nation romanticizing knighthood and bravery

St George became the patron saint in the 14th century when Edward III adopted him as the emblem of the Order of the Garter

By the 15th century, St George had eclipsed earlier English saints like St Edmund. In 1415, his feast day (April 23) was made a national feast day in England

Technically, without a British passport or visa St George wouldn't be able to come to the UK today. However, as he was being persecuted, he could claim asylum in the UK under the 195 1 Refugee Convention
 
Jurgen the German said:
But it doesn’t always come from bigotry or with bad intentions which is often the implication in these debates. The vast majority of people in this country are tolerant people, I honestly believe that. You also have to consider that this is relatively new territory and attitudes don’t change overnight. It took time for gay marriage to become the law of the land. Now you see gay/lesbian couples on tv all the time in adverts and in tv shows which I see as a sign of progress, admittedly with work still to be done.
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You can repeat this as many times as you like, but that simply doesn't make it true.

Do you think many people when speaking from a place of bigotry / bad intentions actually admit it when called out? "Oh yeah now you mention it, I am just being hateful against a vulnerable group of people, thanks for pointing it out!, I'll definitely change my ways!"

Edit - I did just notice you put "always", which makes it a fairer comment than I originally thought, but it's still guesswork.

Maybe JK Rowling embraces everyone for who they are and just happened to put a trans woman murdering women in the women's bathroom in her book because it's a entertaining premise, and a bunch of mouthbreathers took it too seriously. Who knows!
 
LutonSpurs said:
Today, St George's Day, where we celebrate the Turkish migrant worker who never came to Britain

He'd be banned from Britain now, actually

Always fascinated at how the patron saint of England had never visited England

St George was born in Cappadocia, Turkey. He was killed by Roman Emperor Diocletian for refusing to denounce Christianity and instead worship the Roman gods in 303 AD

By the 5th century, churches were being dedicated to him in Jerusalem, Egypt, and Syria

By the 6th century, his name appeared in Christian texts across Europe, and he was revered as a military saint, a protector of soldiers and defenders of the faith

Churches in his name were established in the region, and St. George became the patron saint of many Palestinian Christian communities

During the 11th-13th century crusades, English knights fighting in the Holy Land heard stories of St George appearing in visions to help Christian armies. He was seen as a divine warrior—ideal for a nation romanticizing knighthood and bravery

St George became the patron saint in the 14th century when Edward III adopted him as the emblem of the Order of the Garter

By the 15th century, St George had eclipsed earlier English saints like St Edmund. In 1415, his feast day (April 23) was made a national feast day in England

Technically, without a British passport or visa St George wouldn't be able to come to the UK today. However, as he was being persecuted, he could claim asylum in the UK under the 195 1 Refugee Convention
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Sounds like an olden times 'influencer'...just took a bit longer to ramp up the followers. :)

Did well though, probably would have been cancelled within 6 months these days.
 
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