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So, what happened today?

spurspinter1 said:
Try me! I've been stuck in a bit of a rut, I cycle around 10 / 15 miles a day and pop on either some lo fi electronic "mood music" like fourtet or boards of Canada or some braggadocious hip hop on my phone. But I rarely sit down to listen to full album with headphones. Kinda sad really. I did listen to the new(ish) sleep token album and fudging loved it tbf



That's a very solid summary. I think it became cool to dislike them and GHod forbid having a front man who has the audacity to not eat the rotting flesh of animal corpses (not i don't work in marketing!). One particularly excellent superhans line that gets regularly quoted without appropriately giving credit comes to mind!

It's interesting, there's plenty of grown men who've modelled their whole vibe on the Gallagher brothers, haircuts, clothes and the way they carry themselves...As i said, I can't stand them but there's obviously something special there. If you're famous, chances are there'll be a bunch of people who can't stand you, it's hard to be universally liked apart from for Son I guess.

There's so much music out there now to delve in to but if you're happy listening to what I would consider slop on the radio, then fair enough.
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Tangerinecat
Russian Circles
They might appeal if you liked SleepToken

The Clause - fantastic indie band
The Rolla - very oasis like

Dead Pony
Scene Queen
Electro punk metal with a bit of attitude

The Wandering Hearts if you want something more acoustic and country. I get to a gig every couple of weeks - they are hands down the best vocals I've ever heard, absolutely beautiful.
 
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Having a drink earlier in our local roostertail bar/restaurant. Saw a group of about half a dozen kids - not sure on ages as I’m not too good with guessing but I’d say between 10-14, certainly young - go into the Budgens shop opposite. A few minutes later the shutters started to go down, the kids were then outside and the guys that run the shop were in the doorway. Kids were clearly hurling abuse at them and also chucking the advertising boards outside and also what I think were drink cans at the staff. I was so shocked at what I was seeing that it was nearly all over by the time it occurred to me to video what was going on. The kids ran off towards the train station. I went over to the shop to offer the guys the bit of video I had taken. They said the kids had gone in and nicked a load of vapes. But as it was kids, they couldn’t do anything to stop them.
I’m really not a naive person by any stretch and I guess this was petty in compared to a lot of what goes on. But it was so blatant and such a lack of respect from kids so young.
We’ve all had high jinx in our youth I’m sure and done things we might not be proud of now, but why should people just doing a job have to put up with that?
 
monkeybarry said:
Tangerinecat
Russian Circles
They might appeal if you liked SleepToken

The Clause - fantastic indie band
The Rolla - very oasis like

Dead Pony
Scene Queen
Electro punk metal with a bit of attitude

The Wandering Hearts if you want something more acoustic and country. I get to a gig every couple of weeks - they are hands down the best vocals I've ever heard, absolutely beautiful.
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Cheers, I'll have a listen (but not to The Rolla because they sound fudging GHod awful!).

Punk isn't really my thing either tbh. I've been to many shows where I could walk on stage and any part of the ensemble by ear without rehearsal. Musicianship isn't everything as the message is important but fudge, repeating the same monotonous flimflam riff, while someone bangs on about problems without any solution, isn't my thing. It's possible I've not seen the best of punk, I love the clash for example, sex pistols meh, I like the idea of the damned but haven't listened to them. It's probably too broad of a genre to say I flat out don't like it i guess..
 
Jealous of all the Oasis watchers, saw them around 2000-2003ish at Wembley, were great back then. I remember tickets of touts were only going for £50 - think we paid around £30. Hopefully they do a few more shows and I get to see them again.
 
P.D. said:
Jealous of all the Oasis watchers, saw them around 2000-2003ish at Wembley, were great back then. I remember tickets of touts were only going for £50 - think we paid around £30. Hopefully they do a few more shows and I get to see them again.
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I know it's the resale market but I have two for the last date at Wembley
I paid £175 each
On Viagogo there are two a few seats from where I'm sitting going for £1,400 each
Last date I suppose but it's so so wrong
 
markysimmo said:
I know it's the resale market but I have two for the last date at Wembley
I paid £175 each
On Viagogo there are two a few seats from where I'm sitting going for £1,400 each
Last date I suppose but it's so so wrong
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I don't think reselling for a small profit if you can't make it is wrong e.g. £200 or so. It's the professional touts I can't stand that stop genuine fans getting tickets.
 
Been going out for a lot more walks recently and really noticing the amount of nice cars you see out now, when I was younger there was plenty of old bangers but now you hardly ever see them.

The amount of range rovers, porsches, mercs, audis, teslas etc around is crazy, are people just getting them all on finance. Even the more mid range brands like a Ford Kuga, Volvo XC40 etc are around £400-500 a month so the higher end must be getting on for £800-1000 a month. Are people really paying that sort of fee, no way I could afford that on top of a mortgage.
 
P.D. said:
I don't think reselling for a small profit if you can't make it is wrong e.g. £200 or so. It's the professional touts I can't stand that stop genuine fans getting tickets.
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and the fact you can't get the tickets most of the time because of the bots is frustrating
 
P.D. said:
Been going out for a lot more walks recently and really noticing the amount of nice cars you see out now, when I was younger there was plenty of old bangers but now you hardly ever see them.

The amount of range rovers, porsches, mercs, audis, teslas etc around is crazy, are people just getting them all on finance. Even the more mid range brands like a Ford Kuga, Volvo XC40 etc are around £400-500 a month so the higher end must be getting on for £800-1000 a month. Are people really paying that sort of fee, no way I could afford that on top of a mortgage.
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The majority of people don’t have
Mortgages whilst a lot of struggling people have their cars provided for via motability. I think it was one in five new cars are bought through this route and yes you can buy a merc.

It’s as ever the struggling middle who will be trying to make ends meet using finance and credit cards to maintain the illusion they are wealthy.
 
So Sydney Sweeney is getting a lot of flak for an American Eagle ad saying she has “good genes” and because she’s a registered republican voter. Having seen the ad, I really don’t think they had bad attentions. They just chose her because she’s hot and in vogue with young people.
 
P.D. said:
Been going out for a lot more walks recently and really noticing the amount of nice cars you see out now, when I was younger there was plenty of old bangers but now you hardly ever see them.

The amount of range rovers, porsches, mercs, audis, teslas etc around is crazy, are people just getting them all on finance. Even the more mid range brands like a Ford Kuga, Volvo XC40 etc are around £400-500 a month so the higher end must be getting on for £800-1000 a month. Are people really paying that sort of fee, no way I could afford that on top of a mortgage.
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Mostly finance and leasing deals. Lease route allows you to get a nicer car for a more affordable rate particularly via salary sacrifice schemes if buying a hybrid or EV due to lower BIK taxes.

Lease deals lower monthly rate primarily due to bulk purchase by the lease providers lowering initial outlay and they retain resale value so if you buy a £60K car for £40K as you're buying 100s of them at a time then your lease payments are almost pure profit as its generally based on a mileage limitation that means when its handed back you've got a 3 year old low mileage range rover lets say which you can then probably sell on the second hand market for around.....£40K. This methodology means people can often get really nice cars on relatively affordable deals...and yes the standard of car seen on British roads has increased remarkably over the last 20 years.
 
Think leasing is now knocking around 30% of new registrations.
Obviously was one upon a time a business thing but new markets are always sort, so personal leasing got joe public into cars they could never really afford otherwise. People see it as just another rolling monthly expense. Problem is (as PD alluded too) the monthly payments are quite pricey now for standard cars and when you combine that with the inflation on your other fixed monthly expenses, it can put you in a tough spot.

Lease companies are probably been doing well as the second hand market prices have been solid since covid...so those 2,3,4 year lease contracts are probably well in their favour on expiry.

I think it's EV depreciation that's giving them headaches.
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
Think leasing is now knocking around 30% of new registrations.
Obviously was one upon a time a business thing but new markets are always sort, so personal leasing got joe public into cars they could never really afford otherwise. People see it as just another rolling monthly expense. Problem is (as PD alluded too) the monthly payments are quite pricey now for standard cars and when you combine that with the inflation on your other fixed monthly expenses, it can put you in a tough spot.

Lease companies are probably been doing well as the second hand market prices have been solid since covid...so those 2,3,4 year lease contracts are probably well in their favour on expiry.

I think it's EV depreciation that's giving them headaches.
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I think it was the court proceedings on commission payments that's been giving them headaches 2bh. The largest vehicle finance providers have been putting millions aside - the recent decision that brokers did not owe consumers a fiduciary duty of care and were able to act with their own commercial interests in mind caused a sigh of relief but the FCA are considering a limited redress scheme so once that uncertainty is finalised i'm sure that will be their major headache gone. Depreciation is factored into lease repayments and the government grant announced will help in pushing EV deals lower.
 
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