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Ryan Mason

Can say what I like Roy, my opinion is they both contributed next to nothing.

You can say what you like yes but you should talk sense really it will help you long term on here.

They didn't do much granted but nor did any of the players so singling out anyone is pointless.
 
You can say what you like yes but you should talk sense really it will help you long term on here.

They didn't do much granted but nor did any of the players so singling out anyone is pointless.
'Will help you long term on here' Help me what? Am I trying to achieve something? Calm your jets Roy it's just my opinion, makes the world go round.
 
It looked like a difficult game for Mason. I imagine it take a while to get used to being back in the side, the pace of the game, teammates etc, and he probably needs a run of games. I expect Carroll would have found it equally difficult, although I would have rather had Carroll on looking for a goal. However good the team you always need an industrious player or two that keep the ball ticking over.
 
Having seen him up close in training, Mason looks a bit fragile.He doesn't have the build to dominate in CM.
 
Like Modric and Ardiles?

Mason has bite, like those two did.

My problem with Carroll isn't his size, it's that he's timid with it.
Like Modric and Ardiles?

Mason has bite, like those two did.

My problem with Carroll isn't his size, it's that he's timid with it.
Sadly he is no where near as talented as those 2 which gives them some allowance for their lack of physicality. "having bite" is not enough as a defensive midfielder, he needs to be able to read the game, get into good positions and be physically strong to break up attacks. I don't think he is a defensive midfielder. He is better as one of the three behind the striker perhaps an understudy for Eriksen. However, in that position I would humbly say that I think Pritchard will be better than Mason, so for me he is surplus to requirements.
 
Sadly he is no where near as talented as those 2 which gives them some allowance for their lack of physicality. "having bite" is not enough as a defensive midfielder, he needs to be able to read the game, get into good positions and be physically strong to break up attacks. I don't think he is a defensive midfielder. He is better as one of the three behind the striker perhaps an understudy for Eriksen. However, in that position I would humbly say that I think Pritchard will be better than Mason, so for me he is surplus to requirements.
While Ossie was slight he dominated midfields at a time when players got 7 bales of brick kicked out of them. He was hard as nails and never shirked a tackle.
 
While Ossie was slight he dominated midfields at a time when players got 7 bales of bricke kicked out of them. He was hard as nails and never shirked a tackle.

He was tougher than the majority of players I see today. Indeed, he absolutely NEVER bottled a tackle whatsoever. I think it is hard to fully appreciate him unless you saw him regularly (like we did) on pitches like Ayresome Park and Kenny Road in brick weather. An UTTER ledge, and the reason I knew within 5 minutes of watching Modric that he was going to be excellent, size be damned.
 
Well done to the idiot in the Paxton who shouted 'Pull your fudging finger out Mason' during the lap of honour by the way. Sure it was well appreciated! Found that out today from a mutual pal.
 
Well done to the idiot in the Paxton who shouted 'Pull your fudgeing finger out Mason' during the lap of honour by the way. Sure it was well appreciated! Found that out today from a mutual pal.
you sure it wasn't the taco who sits behind me in the park lane -he alway has a scaoe goat and seems to ante the less glamourous players
 
Can say what I like Roy, my opinion is they both contributed next to nothing.
Sure you can say what you like, but if you cannot come up with intelligent, balanced criticism then don't expect to be taken too seriously.

For sure it was not one of his better games, but to suggest Mason did next to nothing is just plain wrong. He put in the hard yards as always and made an absolutely critical interception first half, had he not been back in the box at that point we would likely have conceded at a critical moment just before half-time:

45'+1'

CLOSE! That’s top-class defending from Mason, who gets across in front of Davis to prevent the former Rangers midfielder getting on the end of Tadic’s cross, which would have capped off a superb Southampton counter-attack that their goalscorer, who is flourishing in his role behind Long, started.​
 
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