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Roberto De Zerbi *OFFICIAL*

lol! Plenty of people are saying ‘hiring a guy who takes a while to bed in when you need instant results is an…interesting choice’. As always my mind goes to ‘surely the decision makers have thought this through’

Let’s see if it pays off, and that we aren’t all sitting here in 7 games time wondering why we hired the guy who takes a while to bed in while we head off to the Championship.

If you have learned nothing about those two, it must surely be that they think 'something' through, but I am not at all sure it is connected with what's best for this football club.
 
People would no doubt forget about his off-field activities if he brought the glory days back to WHL, just like how Gazza got cheered to the rafters when he appeared for our “Legends” team at the test event for our new stadium despite his litany of crimes over the decades…





Inexcusable behaviour, but Gascoigne has repeatedly sought treatment for addiction issues, and has never received the full mental health treatment he needed. He has ADHD, depression, anxiety and bipolar disorder, plus OCD. He has been sectioned under the Mental Health Act.

I am not excusing his deplorable actions, I am pointing out that this sort of comparison is IMO very wide of the mark as there are an enormous amount of differences between the two men.
 
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I think this is exactly the cse, and that De Zerbi has squeezed their lemons for a fatter pile of wonga than they wanted to fork over. Putting aside all opinions, speaking coldly, IF this was the guy they wanted, then they should've fudging squeezed their lemons for the guy before Tudor...they are just pathetic IMO.
Maybe they did but he turned us down. Tudor failed so they have had to offer stupid money to get him know. What I do know it has turned into a cluster fudge
 
I think this is exactly the cse, and that De Zerbi has squeezed their lemons for a fatter pile of wonga than they wanted to fork over. Putting aside all opinions, speaking coldly, IF this was the guy they wanted, then they should've fudging squeezed their lemons for the guy before Tudor...they are just pathetic IMO.
It seemed like when Frank went they wanted de Zebri permanently but he wasn't keen to take it until the summer unless seriously persuaded (ie money). So then they went down the interim route thinking could get away with it and then come back in the summer for de Zebri or another top candidate who is available.

But now the interim experiment has failed and they are desperate and have had to bend over for de Zebri. The sad thing is as you allude to, were they to have paid up for him at the time of Frank's dismissal and then I would have been really comfortable with us being close to safe already with better results against Palace and Forest. Whereas now, it really is touch and go as he has so little time to get it right.

But I will say, I will feel slightly more confident of us staying up with him at the helm. Forgetting all the noise about his 'character', I think he is a good coach who is better suited to this squad than both Frank and Tudor....
 
It seemed like when Frank went they wanted de Zebri permanently but he wasn't keen to take it until the summer unless seriously persuaded (ie money). So then they went down the interim route thinking could get away with it and then come back in the summer for de Zebri or another top candidate who is available.

But now the interim experiment has failed and they are desperate and have had to bend over for de Zebri. The sad thing is as you allude to, were they to have paid up for him at the time of Frank's dismissal and then I would have been really comfortable with us being close to safe already with better results against Palace and Forest. Whereas now, it really is touch and go as he has so little time to get it right.

But I will say, I will feel slightly more confident of us staying up with him at the helm. Forgetting all the noise about his 'character', I think he is a good coach who is better suited to this squad than both Frank and Tudor....

I hope you're right.

I am not sure. I have heard from people who worked with him at Brighton that as good a coach as he is, there is a heavy price to be paid in terms of his attitude and the chaos he brings/creates.
 
I hope you're right.

I am not sure. I have heard from people who worked with him at Brighton that as good a coach as he is, there is a heavy price to be paid in terms of his attitude and the chaos he brings/creates.
I think these problems would arise further down the line - Let's just try and get over the line for the next 7 games and then we can look forward to the next managerial merry go round :) .....
 
Yup, the double standards of a fanbase who cheered Gascoigne to the rafters when he appeared for our “Legends” team at that test event for our new stadium despite him being guilty of decades of domestic abuse amongst his many other criminal convictions.



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And let us not forget that he admitted racially abusing a black security guard employed to protect him.

He used to be a legend to me (I was at Wembley in 1991) now I just think he is pathetic and try not to think about him at all.
 
Inexcusable behaviour, but Gascoigne has repeatedly sought treatment for addiction issues, and has never received the full mental health treatment he needed. He has ADHD, depression, anxiety and bipolar disorder, plus OCD. He has been sectioned under the Mental Health Act.

I am not excusing his deplorable actions, I am pointing out that this sort of comparison is IMO very wide of the mark as there are an enormous amount of differences between the two men.

Its the fact that Gazzas life and conditions were allowed to feature in his story is where the privilege comes in my dear friend. This isn't about Gazza himself persay or Mason. It's how the media frames people and how the fans are then able to find ways not to hate their heroes or hate them.

This is one for me and you to discuss over a beer next time we meet up my brother
 
On RDZ I think Spurs have gone all in for the hand. They know an interim hasn't worked. I reckon they have said we will give you all the time you need to rebuold and to get us promoted again. Here's 5 years and more moeny than you've seen.

Fukin gamble but it's as likely to work as all the other brick they've tried
 
On RDZ I think Spurs have gone all in for the hand. They know an interim hasn't worked. I reckon they have said we will give you all the time you need to rebuold and to get us promoted again. Here's 5 years and more moeny than you've seen.

Fukin gamble but it's as likely to work as all the other brick they've tried0

I think it's a big risk if the intention is for him to be the man to lead us in the Championship should we go down.
 
I think it's a big risk if the intention is for him to be the man to lead us in the Championship should we go down.

Agreed. I'm speculating but it feels like it's the Spurs way to find a totally different style of coach from the last 2 and go all in like a bunch of strategy deprived bellends who make decisions that cost millions on a whim lol

And as much as I find issues with RDZ, I hope he proves me wrong and the club address the concerns of fans who want to be paying money in to a club who cares about major societal issues.

One can hope it works.
 
We need a permanent manager that the players know will be here next season , might stir some of them into more effort to keep on their current wage packets.
Depending on which site you want to look at we have approx. 10th highest wage bill in europe, if we go down many players face a reduced wage packet or finding another club , some like VDV look as though they can get a better deal but many will struggle to find clubs that will match what they get as a PL player at Spurs.
 
I hope you're right.

I am not sure. I have heard from people who worked with him at Brighton that as good a coach as he is, there is a heavy price to be paid in terms of his attitude and the chaos he brings/creates.
Interesting and unexpected quote from Sandro:
[Asked back in 2023, who the best coach he played under]"It was De Zerbi, 100 per cent. I worked with him and fell in love with him in the first week … He's got passion. He's there every day, like a teacher. He practised a lot, the repetition. He's a manager who wants to have the ball all the time. A very intelligent and very particular manager who thinks a lot about the game. He helps players and gives them the details they need to hurt the opponent.
Benevento were in a very bad situation, but De Zerbi picked some players to try to improve the team and I was part of that, I didn't know that I was going to meet one of the best coaches that I've had. It was amazing because I learned a lot from him, and I really enjoyed playing for him. I saw great things. When I arrived there, I was already an experienced player and I'd seen so many coaches. He made me come to games with fire, like 'what's he going to teach us today? What are we going to do?' You must be good to do that. I wanted more. I wanted to play for him."
 
I suspect the idea of him coming now is a no and the club doesn't/won't wait because now is critical. People just need to get over Poch IMO
We actually just need to appoint him again. Watch him fail and then people can get over him. It's ridiculous at this point but it makes sense. I've said before on here that so many of our fans are believers in the "Messiah Coach" and that's what Poch represents. He did so well the first time around that given our circumstances rather than trying to actually address the rot and reinforce the foundations, they want the massive plaster of a coach who can far exceed the ingredients that we will give them. They've seen Poch do it, and so now there's an obsession with getting him back. The sad thing is if we ever do go again with him it will not be the same as the first time around, we don't have the players this time around.

I think relegation might be a good thing for us. It would cause the massive cultural reset that this club and fan base so evidently needs. I don't want to go down, but more and more I think it might be for the best.
 
We should also remember that Di Zerbi took seven games to win his first match at Brighton, I wonder how long it will take this time.
Seems to struggle getting going which is a worry.
However, Tudor generally started well at clubs bar ours so hopefully the opposite will be true if RDZ is appointed.
 
We actually just need to appoint him again. Watch him fail and then people can get over him. It's ridiculous at this point but it makes sense. I've said before on here that so many of our fans are believers in the "Messiah Coach" and that's what Poch represents. He did so well the first time around that given our circumstances rather than trying to actually address the rot and reinforce the foundations, they want the massive plaster of a coach who can far exceed the ingredients that we will give them. They've seen Poch do it, and so now there's an obsession with getting him back. The sad thing is if we ever do go again with him it will not be the same as the first time around, we don't have the players this time around.

I think relegation might be a good thing for us. It would cause the massive cultural reset that this club and fan base so evidently needs. I don't want to go down, but more and more I think it might be for the best.
I loved Poch but wouldn't be sure about him coming back.
Personally if we were/are going long term I'd go for Enzo Maresca.
 
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