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billyiddo said:
Now lets look at PL

Maddison 12
Kudus 8
Savinho 2
Kulu 7
Marmoush 4
Solanke 19
Xavi 2
Tel 4
(Edit : might as well chuck Mudryk in with his 5)


So 2 double digit league seasons from our attackers. Solanke hasn't looked close to replicating that season since and Maddison on a recovery journey from injury.

You'd expect Marmoush to rack up a decent amount of goals, 10-15, but i wouldn't bet on any of the others beating those numbers, maybe Savinho can get 5 or 6 as a regular starter.

I don't think it's actually possible to overstate the issue with the lack of goal scorers in our squad currently.
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It is very scary.
I am personally invested in total belief that what RDZ is building will work. That is a healthy approach from the mental health perspective, however I agree, we should really be very concerned.
I think getting two or three at the weekend is actually very important.
 
Looking at those season bests irrespective of leagues :

Maddison - 12 in league 5 seasons ago
Kudus - 8 in PL 3 seasons ago(actually did 11 in league for Ajax) done 9 for Ajax, 11 was for FC Nordsjælland 7 seasons ago in Denmark.
Savio - 9 in league 3 seasons ago, in his career he has scored 14 league goals we've paid 75-85 million for him😂
Deki - 7 in PL, 10 all comps (did 8 in PL once as well)
Marmoush - 15 in league 3 seasons ago
Solanke - 19 in PL 3 seasons ago
Xavi - 19 in league 5 season ago
Tel - 7 in league 4 seasons ago
 
billyiddo said:
Now lets look at PL

Maddison 12
Kudus 8
Savinho 2
Kulu 7
Marmoush 4
Solanke 19
Xavi 2
Tel 4
(Edit : might as well chuck Mudryk in with his 5)


So 2 double digit league seasons from our attackers. Solanke hasn't looked close to replicating that season since and Maddison on a recovery journey from injury.

You'd expect Marmoush to rack up a decent amount of goals, 10-15, but i wouldn't bet on any of the others beating those numbers, maybe Savinho can get 5 or 6 as a regular starter.

I don't think it's actually possible to overstate the issue with the lack of goal scorers in our squad currently.
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Again, don't think it's as dire as it appears (not saying we couldn't do with a more proven goal scorer)

Richi has been able to score double figure in this side whenever he played at least 28 games, Solanke's best season for us was 9 in 27, which says fitness/availability might be the bigger issue. I think Marmoush is an upgrade on both, so agree 15-ish if he can stay fit.

Kudus/Maddison/Deki are all kind of "5 goals a season" type of players (taking account availability again, Maddison more but we won't get full season out of him).

The real question is Savio, we are depending on him to push either his goal numbers up, or put in big assist numbers.

My view remains, with 8 players capable, the coach has to figure it out
 
The numbers don't suggest they are capable Raz - you may hope that they will be should they improve and the system gets the best out of them etc, as do i, but it would require a massive upturn in output for them to do so.
 
Raziel said:
Again, don't think it's as dire as it appears (not saying we couldn't do with a more proven goal scorer)

Richi has been able to score double figure in this side whenever he played at least 28 games, Solanke's best season for us was 9 in 27, which says fitness/availability might be the bigger issue. I think Marmoush is an upgrade on both, so agree 15-ish if he can stay fit.

Kudus/Maddison/Deki are all kind of "5 goals a season" type of players (taking account availability again, Maddison more but we won't get full season out of him).

The real question is Savio, we are depending on him to push either his goal numbers up, or put in big assist numbers.

My view remains, with 8 players capable, the coach has to figure it out
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Richie is bloody good though, largely underrated and disrespected imo.

He is still the best forward at the club, despite his squad status.
 
AI has done the legwork so they could be off but still...

Player 2025/26 PL goals
Richarlison 11
Micky van de Ven 4
Dominic Solanke 3
Omar Marmoush 3
Xavi Simons 2
Mohammed Kudus 2
Conor Gallagher 1
Pedro Porro 1
Andy Robertson 1
Rodrigo Bentancur 1
Tosin Adarabioyo 0

29 with Richarlison, 18 without
 
billyiddo said:
Looking at those season bests irrespective of leagues :

Maddison - 12 in league 5 seasons ago
Kudus - 8 in PL 3 seasons ago(actually did 11 in league for Ajax) done 9 for Ajax, 11 was for FC Nordsjælland 7 seasons ago in Denmark.
Savio - 9 in league 3 seasons ago, in his career he has scored 14 league goals we've paid 75-85 million for him😂
Deki - 7 in PL, 10 all comps (did 8 in PL once as well)
Marmoush - 15 in league 3 seasons ago
Solanke - 19 in PL 3 seasons ago
Xavi - 19 in league 5 season ago
Tel - 7 in league 4 seasons ago
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None of them have done it consistently, and I don’t think any of them can be relied upon at all. It was why I wanted Watkins (15+ goals for five consecutive seasons).

From a goalscoring perspective, we are in very very worrying territory.
 
billyiddo said:
The numbers don't suggest they are capable Raz - you may hope that they will be should they improve and the system gets the best out of them etc, as do i, but it would require a massive upturn in output for them to do so.
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I get the concern, no question.

My question back (and too lazy right now), how does this compare to top 6 side, top 7-10 sides? does everyone else really have 3 players knocking in double figures and 1 punching in 18+ or is that really Kane/Son/Haaland/Salah territory?
 
Raziel said:
I get the concern, no question.

My question back (and too lazy right now), how does this compare to top 6 side, top 7-10 sides? does everyone else really have 3 players knocking in double figures and 1 punching in 18+ or is that really Kane/Son/Haaland/Salah territory?
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Same - maybe tomorrow 😂
 
Raziel said:
I get the concern, no question.

My question back (and too lazy right now), how does this compare to top 6 side, top 7-10 sides? does everyone else really have 3 players knocking in double figures and 1 punching in 18+ or is that really Kane/Son/Haaland/Salah territory?
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Arsenal do and I think that includes Gyokeres who is a weak link but will score for them
City kinda of do but their model is feed Haaland
Chelsea do now but luckily can’t defend
Pool have quality scoring options
United maybe….
 
billyiddo said:
AI has done the legwork so they could be off but still...

Player 2025/26 PL goals
Richarlison 11
Micky van de Ven 4
Dominic Solanke 3
Omar Marmoush 3
Xavi Simons 2
Mohammed Kudus 2
Conor Gallagher 1
Pedro Porro 1
Andy Robertson 1
Rodrigo Bentancur 1
Tosin Adarabioyo 0

29 with Richarlison, 18 without
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You need 45 to 50 to stay up hahah
 
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