Roberto De Zerbi *OFFICIAL*

[MadSpurs]

Let's face it, if he'd spoken to the players people would just slate him for it. If he doesn't speak to the players then guess what? He'd get slated for it. Ultimately, if you're one of the people that have it in for him you are going to twist it in the direction that suits your narrative.

He should have spoken to his players in the dressing room after the game. That is what every top coach does, what did he think it gained him ignoring his team and then going to the journos to throw them under the bus?

Last week he spoke to one of his players straight after the 90 mins. He got lambasted for that.

Having a pop at a player in full view is not a very good idea.

I reckon they'll have a great chat about the game as a group at the first opportunity.

Back at training 100%, should have still spoken about it directly after the game though

They will talk about dominating Villa and I hope they talk about the Wan-Bissaka / Marmoush incident and remind the player that PGMOL have cheated us out of 3 points again.

Oh come on - the world is not against us. I see this narrative all over X, it's a viewpoint not to be taken seriously.

However, they will focus on what happened to the mindset of team when they went 2-0 down. There will be a couple of private conversations with individual players about switching off and making mistakes.

De Zerbi sets the mindset, if it's wrong it's all on him

Yesterday turned out a bad day at the office in the end. It shouldn't have been that way really.

Agree, it shouldn't yet it was... again

 

[billyiddo]

Let's face it, if he'd spoken to the players people would just slate him for it. If he doesn't speak to the players then guess what? He'd get slated for it. Ultimately, if you're one of the people that have it in for him you are going to twist it in the direction that suits your narrative.

Last week he spoke to one of his players straight after the 90 mins. He got lambasted for that.

I reckon they'll have a great chat about the game as a group at the first opportunity. They will talk about dominating Villa and I hope they talk about the Wan-Bissaka / Marmoush incident and remind the player that PGMOL have cheated us out of 3 points again. However, they will focus on what happened to the mindset of team when they went 2-0 down. There will be a couple of private conversations with individual players about switching off and making mistakes.

Yesterday turned out a bad day at the office in the end. It shouldn't have been that way really.

I don't think I've ever heard of a manager being criticised for speaking to his players after a loss

 

[Raziel]

I get that you're saying you're not particularly happy with the summer business but why would you resign Palhinha if you want to improve the passing game and chances created? He doesn't add that and we know this from what he is as a player and what we saw with our eyes last season.

I personally I would have kept Spence but not for the left hand side. We needed an actual LB and whether that was getting in Robertson or just trusting in Souza I don't mind but Spence should have this season only been available for the right hand side.

I get why we didn't sign a 10 as we have 3 of them already. Buying a 4th would have been questionable but then they actually did try and buy a 10 hybrid in Ndiaye so TBF you kind of can't criticise the lack of the additional 10 when we did almost get him.

I'm not actually, I'm saying a lot of choices that were made that either weren't absolutely necessary or questionable as if they upgraded the replaced player. Those decisions, regardless of if its "back the manager" or just change of guard will/should all be judged in time (right now, doesn't look so good)

I wouldn't have signed Palhinha to improve passing (just to answer that question), Kinsky, JPVH, Fernandes, Maddison (caveat, when fit) and Savinho have enough passing in them. I'd sign Palhinha for when a fight is needed (see Bretford game, or what Brighton just did to Arsenal).

I can criticise the lack of 10, because we fudged up with the Gakpo/Ndiaye play, at some point in time we needed to either get the man, or move on to another viable target, and no, Mudryk isn't a viable player, an academy player should be there is we had zero options.

 

[Raziel]

Let's face it, if he'd spoken to the players people would just slate him for it. If he doesn't speak to the players then guess what? He'd get slated for it. Ultimately, if you're one of the people that have it in for him you are going to twist it in the direction that suits your narrative.

Last week he spoke to one of his players straight after the 90 mins. He got lambasted for that.

I reckon they'll have a great chat about the game as a group at the first opportunity. They will talk about dominating Villa and I hope they talk about the Wan-Bissaka / Marmoush incident and remind the player that PGMOL have cheated us out of 3 points again. However, they will focus on what happened to the mindset of team when they went 2-0 down. There will be a couple of private conversations with individual players about switching off and making mistakes.

Yesterday turned out a bad day at the office in the end. It shouldn't have been that way really.

Problem is, it's the 50th bad day at the office in the last 141 days at the office.

And I 100% get that isn't all on RDZ, but, it cannot be allowed to continue, something has to change

 

[SissokoWasGood (BoL)]

He should have spoken to his players in the dressing room after the game. That is what every top coach does, what did he think it gained him ignoring his team and then going to the journos to throw them under the bus?


Having a pop at a player in full view is not a very good idea.


Back at training 100%, should have still spoken about it directly after the game though


Oh come on - the world is not against us. I see this narrative all over X, it's a viewpoint not to be taken seriously.


De Zerbi sets the mindset, if it's wrong it's all on him


Agree, it shouldn't yet it was... again

I can recall hearing multiple examples of coaches before international breaks not speaking to the players much or at all after the last game before they go. The reason is whatever message is given is lost, there are 3 weeks out now and most of those players will be flying off to their international commitments. Their minds will always be there.

How has he thrown them under the bus?

 

[Muttley]

Problem is, it's the 50th bad day at the office in the last 141 days at the office.

And I 100% get that isn't all on RDZ, but, it cannot be allowed to continue, something has to change

I'm all for electrifying the vests of the referees and every time they cheat the laws of the game I'll give the button a little squeeze. I'll soon get us a level playing field back.

 

[Mikey10]

I can recall hearing multiple examples of coaches before international breaks not speaking to the players much or at all after the last game before they go. The reason is whatever message is given is lost, there are 3 weeks out now and most of those players will be flying off to their international commitments. Their minds will always be there.

How has he thrown them under the bus?

Was listening to a podcast earlier which was saying it’s standard for a manager not to address the players before an international break for the reasons you give; and they also said that some managers never speak to players in the changing room post-match due to the atmosphere being too emotional for anything positive to be gained from doing it.

No idea if it’s true, but makes some sense.

 

[SissokoWasGood (BoL)]

Problem is, it's the 50th bad day at the office in the last 141 days at the office.

And I 100% get that isn't all on RDZ, but, it cannot be allowed to continue, something has to change

This is going to sound like I’m having a pop at our fans and I’m really not, but I do wonder if part of the issue, the lack of execution in key moments, is down to the nervousness that comes from the unease of our fans. Because you’re right that this has gone on too long, under multiple different managers, and other than RDZ being at the start of his cycle, this is the only thing I can think of as a consistent factor that applies across the entire timeframe we’re talking about.

And I’m really not sure what the answer is. I think the players have to be the ones to just try and block that out, to bring a calmness and a positivity to these moments, and do what they are more than capable of doing when it comes to it.

I just don’t know if another club has a fan base that is as self deprecating at ours. There are multiple shots on coverage of our games of fans looking depressed, hopeless, or even the wry smiles that we’ve actually scored a goal. Or the sarcastic applause when we had a shot on target. Our fans give off the impression that the club is just one step from hurting us badly again. We’re just waiting for the other shoe to drop, constantly.

We’ll sing, we’ll get behind the team. But there’s a latent nervousness that just seems to be a consistent thread through the years, especially recently. We’re not proud, not really. We’re not confident. We’re not sure it’s all going to work out eventually. And I do think that has some impact.

 

[Bishop]

I'm not actually, I'm saying a lot of choices that were made that either weren't absolutely necessary or questionable as if they upgraded the replaced player. Those decisions, regardless of if its "back the manager" or just change of guard will/should all be judged in time (right now, doesn't look so good)

I wouldn't have signed Palhinha to improve passing (just to answer that question), Kinsky, JPVH, Fernandes, Maddison (caveat, when fit) and Savinho have enough passing in them. I'd sign Palhinha for when a fight is needed (see Bretford game, or what Brighton just did to Arsenal).

I can criticise the lack of 10, because we fudged up with the Gakpo/Ndiaye play, at some point in time we needed to either get the man, or move on to another viable target, and no, Mudryk isn't a viable player, an academy player should be there is we had zero options.

With regards to Ndiaye we probably thought we had been slick and got a coup. When that deal fell through there wasn't really the time to get someone else in. I likewise wouldn't have bothered with Mudryrk, his signing makes little to no sense to me. He wasn't exactly firing before his suspension so to go for him after 2 years of inactivity shows me a level of desperation in that move.