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Putin & Russia

SpurMeUp said:
Is Russia a brutal, empire building dictatorship? Yes. Has it been ‘nudged’ toward this position? Probably yes.
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Yes, both Russia and America were coaxing/whispering/snipering to try and get a Ukraine government that was favourable to them.
One of Russia and America rolled tanks into Ukraine and murdered/raped/tortured/stole civilians. They are the baddies here.
 
I hope today will see some big steps towards a lasting peace.

On radio 5 they mentioned that the whole idea of the US working with and within Ukraine was actually a Ukrainian proposal.

Unfortunately It doesn’t seem like the two protagonists are at all close to agreeing the way forward so Trump has his work cut out - he should be congratulated for trying.
 
SpurMeUp said:
Is the support from NATO countries - the intervention - classed as “NATO”?
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Still no. Nope. Absolutely not NATO.

Nato is an organisation distinctive from sovereign nations whose parliaments may or may not choose to assist Ukraine.

Hope that clears that up once and for all.
 
johnola said:
Still no. Nope. Absolutely not NATO.

Nato is an organisation distinctive from sovereign nations whose parliaments may or may not choose to assist Ukraine.

Hope that clears that up once and for all.
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Yet the core nations that support Ukraine are all NATO members. And even politicians loosely use terms like 'nato forces' etc.
 
Trump and Vance were massively embarrassing in that press conference with Zelenksy. Lord Mayor's show at its finest

No coherent messages or sentences, just an opportunity to flag wave about how big America is. Vance and his "I have visited....sorry seen it"

Jesus the worlds doomed with these cnuts, its like a bad day on twitter
 
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Grays_1890 said:
Trump and Vance were massively embarrassing in that press conference with Zelenksy. Lord Mayor's show at its finest

No coherent messages or sentences, just an opportunity to flag wave about how big America is. Vance and his "I have visited....sorry seen it"

Jesus the worlds doomed with these cnuts, its like a bad day on twitter
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Trump/Vance ...All about ego.

It would have been nice to know Zelenskys thoughts, but they wouldn't let him speak. Bully boys.

The man is a leader of a country that is in the middle of a war with all the crushing and terrible issues that go with it ffs. Zero allowance for that and zero empathy.

Probably got the arse as they might not get their greasy hands of all those rare earth mineral for them and their tech bros.
 
www.bbc.co.uk

Trump tells Zelensky 'make a deal or we're out' in angry White House meeting - follow live

A joint news conference is cancelled after the US president calls his Ukrainian counterpart "disrespectful" and says "make a deal or we're out".
www.bbc.co.uk

Looking forward to seeing Johnson, Farage and Truss squirming their way out of this one.

I’m increasingly of the view that by the time the UK population have had four years of watching this far-right s hitshow unravel Reform will be polling lower than The Monster Raving Loony Party.

Assuming that Outspan hasn’t caused the planet to be blown up by then, of course.

Time to send America into exile. Big call for Starmer now. I hope he has the balls to do the right thing.
 
Mikey10 said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Trump tells Zelensky 'make a deal or we're out' in angry White House meeting - follow live

A joint news conference is cancelled after the US president calls his Ukrainian counterpart "disrespectful" and says "make a deal or we're out".
www.bbc.co.uk

Looking forward to seeing Johnson, Farage and Truss squirming their way out of this one.

I’m increasingly of the view that by the time the UK population have had four years of watching this far-right s hitshow unravel Reform will be polling lower than The Monster Raving Loony Party.

Assuming that Outspan hasn’t caused the planet to be blown up by then, of course.

Time to send America into exile. Big call for Starmer now. I hope he has the balls to do the right thing.
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🤣 Not a snowballs chance.
 
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