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Putin & Russia
- Thread starter Rorschach
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monkeybarry
Jack Jull
If I remember/understand correctly - that is the case. There is a values test on many areas.
But I don't think they'd pass now.
El Guepardo
Rafael Van Der Vaart
What does this mean for the future? What action is required?
Mikey10
Pedro Mendes
Those sanctions are working out well.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...l-price-vladimir-putin?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...l-price-vladimir-putin?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Economic sanctions are more of a long game. There will always be someone willing to buy their oil if the price is right. Cutting off supply of certain products they can't produce themselves will start hitting them sooner, like electronics for their missiles and tanks.
The west has to do something about the blockade of Ukrainian ports though, so they can get their wheat out, but Putin doesn't really give a brick about any of this. As long as he thinks he can get something out of bombing the brick out of Ukraine, the war will continue.
El Guepardo
Rafael Van Der Vaart
Will we all get drafted in? How does all that work? Guessing it’s youngest first and healthiest?
johnola
Jermaine Jenas
No chance of a draft any war will rapidly turn robotic drone v drone and anti missile capabilities to the fore. Large movements of personnel are doomed to failure.
Also I cannot see any appetite for a voluntary expeditionary force from any nation to assist another beyond NATO professional commitments. Local voluntary defence forces will be set up.
The real war will be against famine and a loss of focus on global environment issues. It is not impossible we will experience rationing in the U.K. first with fuel, then energy power supplies, and eventually food.
Also I cannot see any appetite for a voluntary expeditionary force from any nation to assist another beyond NATO professional commitments. Local voluntary defence forces will be set up.
The real war will be against famine and a loss of focus on global environment issues. It is not impossible we will experience rationing in the U.K. first with fuel, then energy power supplies, and eventually food.
metalgear
Luka Modric
Do you agree that Nato belongs in Europe?
Or is this Nato expansion in clear?
https://www3-nhk-or-jp.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20220607_01/amphtml
Or is this Nato expansion in clear?
https://www3-nhk-or-jp.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20220607_01/amphtml
metalgear
Luka Modric
https://greatpowerrelations.com/post-review-of-kissingers-speech-in-davos-2022/
Kissinger grasps the gravity of the situation but he was not just critical of the policy, he also offered an ominous warning that has been almost-entirely ignored by the media.
Here’s what he said: “Negotiations need to begin in the next two months before it creates upheavals and tensions that will not be easily overcome. Ideally, the dividing line should be a return to the status quo ante. Pursuing the war beyond that point would not be about the freedom of Ukraine but a new war against Russia itself”. His key arguments are:
The US policy is wrong
The US policy must be changed immediately or the damage to the US and its allies will be severe and permanent. (“Negotiations need to begin in the next two months”)
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Kissinger grasps the gravity of the situation but he was not just critical of the policy, he also offered an ominous warning that has been almost-entirely ignored by the media.
Here’s what he said: “Negotiations need to begin in the next two months before it creates upheavals and tensions that will not be easily overcome. Ideally, the dividing line should be a return to the status quo ante. Pursuing the war beyond that point would not be about the freedom of Ukraine but a new war against Russia itself”. His key arguments are:
The US policy is wrong
The US policy must be changed immediately or the damage to the US and its allies will be severe and permanent. (“Negotiations need to begin in the next two months”)
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Rorschach
Ricky Villa
Yeah, he's wrong as per ususal.
El Guepardo
Rafael Van Der Vaart
Yes as I can’t just attack my neighbours then after a while negotiate for their car. Doesn’t work like that.
Rorschach
Ricky Villa
And you are still camping in their garden since 2014!!
SpurMeUp
Gary Stevens
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-cadwalladr-guardian-defamation-brexit-russia
Funny how the prevailing sentiment often affects so-called black and white laws. The associations with Russia are looked at through an altered lens now. A year ago, no one really batted an eyelid when Russian-derived money funded UK lawyers to hound people who shone a light on their nefarious practices. If you have practically unlimited funds, you can abuse our libal laws to intimidate. Thankfully there has been a seachange, and maybe these actions won't be upheld as frequently now.
Funny how the prevailing sentiment often affects so-called black and white laws. The associations with Russia are looked at through an altered lens now. A year ago, no one really batted an eyelid when Russian-derived money funded UK lawyers to hound people who shone a light on their nefarious practices. If you have practically unlimited funds, you can abuse our libal laws to intimidate. Thankfully there has been a seachange, and maybe these actions won't be upheld as frequently now.
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Turkiye is also trying to negotiate safe passage for the grain exports through the Black Sea accompanied by the Turkish Navy. But that involves both Ukraine and Russia agreeing on how that should be done.