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Predict The Run In

Definitely agree that we should not be carried away. I'd rather the press left us alone too instead of trying to twist AVB's comments.
He, like us, knows this is far far from over.

The win yesterday has given the cushion we are definitely going to need. Anything other than a win v Arsenal for me would not have given us a sniff with our run-in.
We are still grinding out results rather than battering teams, but at the end of the day the wins are stacking up.

Realistically I think we are going to need 18pts from the last 10 games to be sure of a Top 4 finish. Would not put it past Arsenal to pick up 24pts from those last 10 games.( Hopefully I'm wrong)

I think I want a City win tonight. Arsenal have United at home 4 games from the end, if the gap is still 10-12pts, they could win the title at Emirates, which they would enjoy and would still mean they have something to play for that day, which helps us.

Our next 6 games are tough, even Fulham, coming after a trip to Milan. If we could come out the other side going to Wigan with a gap of 3-4pts i'll start to believe
 
paxtonwolf said:
Definitely agree that we should not be carried away. I'd rather the press left us alone too instead of trying to twist AVB's comments.
He, like us, knows this is far far from over.

The win yesterday has given the cushion we are definitely going to need. Anything other than a win v Arsenal for me would not have given us a sniff with our run-in.
We are still grinding out results rather than battering teams, but at the end of the day the wins are stacking up.

Realistically I think we are going to need 18pts from the last 10 games to be sure of a Top 4 finish. Would not put it past Arsenal to pick up 24pts from those last 10 games.( Hopefully I'm wrong)

I think I want a City win tonight. Arsenal have United at home 4 games from the end, if the gap is still 10-12pts, they could win the title at Emirates, which they would enjoy and would still mean they have something to play for that day, which helps us.

Our next 6 games are tough, even Fulham, coming after a trip to Milan. If we could come out the other side going to Wigan with a gap of 3-4pts i'll start to believe
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The only time I reckon they will start backing him is if we can potentially knock his old club out of the ECL positions (particularly with the Di Matteo and Benitez issues)
 
Arsenal hadn't been unbeaten all season in the league until they went unbeaten all season.

Records such as these are there to be broken and are partly down to the chance of the fixture list as much as form. No reason we can't continue winning (confidence, momentum). Even if we do lose next game it isn't because we hadn't lost 12 on the trot. This 12 game streak is presumably only an EPl record. I presume our 'top flight' record ('61?) is longer so in a way this is even more meaningless
 
paxtonwolf said:
Definitely agree that we should not be carried away. I'd rather the press left us alone too instead of trying to twist AVB's comments.
He, like us, knows this is far far from over.

The win yesterday has given the cushion we are definitely going to need. Anything other than a win v Arsenal for me would not have given us a sniff with our run-in.
We are still grinding out results rather than battering teams, but at the end of the day the wins are stacking up.

Realistically I think we are going to need 18pts from the last 10 games to be sure of a Top 4 finish. Would not put it past Arsenal to pick up 24pts from those last 10 games.( Hopefully I'm wrong)
I think I want a City win tonight. Arsenal have United at home 4 games from the end, if the gap is still 10-12pts, they could win the title at Emirates, which they would enjoy and would still mean they have something to play for that day, which helps us.

Our next 6 games are tough, even Fulham, coming after a trip to Milan. If we could come out the other side going to Wigan with a gap of 3-4pts i'll start to believe
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I think there is genuine animosity (and respect) between Fergie and Weener that even if the title is in the bag Utd will be set up to win at the Emirates - unless they are still in the CL.
 
Updated after this weekend's results. Arsenal falling slightly behind \o/

Emirates Marketing ProjectTottenhamChelseaArsenal
Wigan (H)Liverpool (A)Fulham (A)Everton (H)
Everton (A)Fulham (H)West Ham (H)Swansea (A)
Saudi Sportswashing Machine (H)Swansea (A)Southampton (A)Reading (H)
Man Utd (A)Everton (H)Sunderland (H)West Brom (A)
West Brom (H)Chelsea (A)Tottenham (H)Norwich (H)
Tottenham (A)Emirates Marketing Project (H)Liverpool (A)Fulham (A)
West Ham (H)Wigan (A)Swansea (H)Man Utd (H)
Swansea (A)Southampton (H)Man Utd (A)QPR (A)
Reading (A)Stoke (A)Aston Villa (A)Wigan (H)
Norwich (H)Sunderland (H)Everton (H)Saudi Sportswashing Machine (A)

I'll weight the teams as follows, expected number of points in brackets (home/away):

Top 1: Man Utd (0/0, anything here is a bonus)

CL contenders: Emirates Marketing Project, Chelsea, Tottenham, Arsenal (1/1, 6 points in total)

Mid table: Everton, Liverpool, Swansea, West Brom, Stoke, Sunderland, Saudi Sportswashing Machine, Fulham, Norwich, West Ham (3/1, 40 points in total)

Bottom 5: QPR, Wigan, Southampton, Reading, Aston Villa (3/3, 30 points in total)

If anyone matched this over the course of a season they would get 76 points, leaving some margin for fudgeups. :) It's mostly intended to rate the different run ins and you never know when teams will start to switch off towards the end of the season.

As it stands:

Emirates Marketing Project 59
Tottenham 54
Chelsea 52
Arsenal 47

Come end of season:

Emirates Marketing Project 80 (21/30 points won)
Tottenham 74 (20/30 points won)
Chelsea 73 (21/30 points won)
Arsenal 66 (19/30 points won)

Assuming the teams fighting relegation put up a fight and get a draw at home:

Emirates Marketing Project 78
Tottenham 72
Chelsea 69
Arsenal 64

Using last season's results from the same fixtures:

Emirates Marketing Project 83
Tottenham 72
Chelsea 72
Arsenal 58

*all this assuming I've counted correctly when adding up

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Here's how Tottenham did in the 10 remaining matches we have left to play last season (swap Southampton with Bolton)...

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...that was 18 points from the 10 matches.

However, we're a much more solid team than we were at this time last season, so I would realistically expect a decent improvement on that points total.

In fact, we're currently averaging around 2.33 points per game in the second half of the 2012-13 season, so if we maintain that until the end of the season, we should be looking at an extra 23 points for a total of 77 for the season.

Whether or not it will be enough to snatch second place off Emirates Marketing Project is very debatable (personally, I don't think it will be enough), but it should certainly be good enough for a Top Four Finish and perhaps even third place.
 
It's all about momentum. Last season they had dealt us a devastating psychological blow at the Emirates which added to the misery of being resigned to losing Redknapp.

This season it's as if roles have been reversed. The question marks are about Wenger's position, we beat them in the crucial NLD, swap Bale for RVP as the world class match winner. We're the one's with the long unbeaten run.

I really hope we can keep it going at Anfield. A point there would do to keep this unbeaten run going.
 
I think we'll beat liverpool, yes Suarez is on fire and will be dangerous but we have players who have wrapped him up before, I can't see them stopping bale and Lennon, and does anyone really think their lunatic boss will out think AVB?
 
@THFC01 You turn the Stoke and Swansea results into wins and that gives us the 5 points more you think we need, I have no fears our run can contiune and if we do lose a game or two the chasers still have to win theirs to catch up.
 
I think when we are going to play Chelsea and ManC back 2 back alot of things will be decided.

And are we lucky we will have a EL game at the same time...
 
Can see a scenario where we're more or less level with Arse going into the last 4 games. Their next 6 games are relatively easy and lets say they 16 points from them - would mean that 9 points from our next 6 would mean that we're level. However I do think we have a massive advantage in the last 4, particuarly given the last 3 games are against teams who will be on the beach
 
Last year after we lost to Arsenal I had this horrible feeling it would all go wrong and couldn't stop thinking about it. So much so, that it made me ill as I go Hives which is a stress related rash...

Last year we had Harry sufferung a heart problem, his court case and then talk of the England job. All those things conspired to de-stabilise the club nad we lost focus and confidence. None of that this year.. Also we lost 5-2 after being 2 up with a chance to go 13 clear instead of 7. This year we have won to be 7
clear.

Yes, we do have hard games to play against our top four rivals and if we lose all of them do we deserve top four? My slightly altered more philosophical approach this year is that no we don't just as QPR need to beat the teams around them to stay up.

Having said that, we could lose all four against Emirates Marketing Project, Everton, Chelscum and Everton and win the other 6 games which would give us 72 points. Arsenal can only afford to drop 5 points to match that.

I've got to go now. My hands are sweating....
 
I think alot of ppl here think that Man U are going to win against Arsenal, but there is a big BUT.

If ManU get to the semi final of CL, the Arsenal game is between the first and second final, and ManU will have won the PL before that game...

I can see rednose resting players that game!

Lets just hope Real can beat em!
 
Key is winning the 4 remaining 'non-Emirates Marketing Project' home games. That would be another 12 points and put us 19 points up on Arse. That could potentially be enough on its own but the odd draw at say Swansea, Liverpool, Stoke and/or Wigan and we should be fine - the Cheatski and Man C games would be irrelevant and we could afford to lose them.

The good thing about those 4 remaining 'non-Emirates Marketing Project' home games is that 3 of them - Fulham, Sunderland and Southampton - either have nothing left to play for or will have nothing left to play for by the time we meet them
 
I think the danger is that the players start to look at these sorts of outcomes rather than just approaching it as one game at a time. We got to approach each game like it's the last game of the season and we need to win to get CL football. We are capable of winning each of those remaining games. We beat Man Utd at OT, that basically means we are capable of beating absolutely anyone on their own patch in this league because United are miles ahead of the rest.
 
diego_maradona said:
I think the danger is that the players start to look at these sorts of outcomes rather than just approaching it as one game at a time. We got to approach each game like it's the last game of the season and we need to win to get CL football. We are capable of winning each of those remaining games. We beat Man Utd at OT, that basically means we are capable of beating absolutely anyone on their own patch in this league because United are miles ahead of the rest.
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This. Take it a game at a time.
Just because we are on a 12 game unbeaten run, does not mean it HAS to end.
This should not have anything to do with the future.
Take each game as it comes
COYS
 
nattenskonge said:
I think alot of ppl here think that Man U are going to win against Arsenal, but there is a big BUT.

If ManU get to the semi final of CL, the Arsenal game is between the first and second final, and ManU will have won the PL before that game...

I can see rednose resting players that game!

Lets just hope Real can beat em!
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Utd's second string side is more than capable of beating Arsenal, imv - some top-class players
 
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paxtonwolf said:
Definitely agree that we should not be carried away. I'd rather the press left us alone too instead of trying to twist AVB's comments.
He, like us, knows this is far far from over.

The win yesterday has given the cushion we are definitely going to need. Anything other than a win v Arsenal for me would not have given us a sniff with our run-in.
We are still grinding out results rather than battering teams, but at the end of the day the wins are stacking up.

Realistically I think we are going to need 18pts from the last 10 games to be sure of a Top 4 finish. Would not put it past Arsenal to pick up 24pts from those last 10 games.( Hopefully I'm wrong)

I think I want a City win tonight. Arsenal have United at home 4 games from the end, if the gap is still 10-12pts, they could win the title at Emirates, which they would enjoy and would still mean they have something to play for that day, which helps us.

Our next 6 games are tough, even Fulham, coming after a trip to Milan. If we could come out the other side going to Wigan with a gap of 3-4pts i'll start to believe
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Excellent post. Berba will be firing against his old team. If key players stay fit and engergised, and fringe players like Sig and Holtby perform well, we'll cross the line. A foregone conclusion it is not however.
 
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