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milo said:
Do you know anyone with a spare bus? I'd like to paint "Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead." along the side and drive it around the country.
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I would be very careful about doing that mate, after all there are loads of nutters who believe everything they read on buses. Or should i say misread what they see.
 
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parklane1 said:
Well seeing as i never wear them it would have made no difference to me :), but seriously though do folks actually get paid for researching such brick. ;)
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You'll have seen that Brexiteers are more likely to go commando too, the unhygienic patriots.
 
I think that this passage from the Blair interview in the New Stateman is interesting. It is something that I have been kicking around for a little while too

Our new emerging political order, he believes, is defined less by a conflict between left and right than by one between “open and closed”, and this is a theme he has been exploring since 2007.

“Open v closed is a really important debate today, because in a curious way the populism of the left and the populism of the right – at a certain point they meet each other. They tend to be isolationist. OK, the left is more anti-business, the right is more anti-immigrant, but they tend to be protectionist and they have an attitude to the process of globalisation that says this is a policy that is given by government and we can stop it and should stop it. Whereas my view about globalisation is that it’s a force essentially driven by people, by technological change, by the way the world has opened up. You’re not going to reverse that. The question is: how do we make that just and fair? That is the big question of our times. The centre left does not provide an answer to that, and we can and should.”

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/11/tony-blair-s-unfinished-business
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scaramanga said:
The OBR also had some quite promising news. Don't let the BBC's myopic summaries fool you.
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And a lot worse than was reported in a lot of the Tory press.

Given that the political debate has been dominated by the size of the deficit for the seven or eight years up until Brexit. I think that it is hardly surprising that public sector borrowing increasing as a result of the current governments actions gets coverage.
 
milo said:
And a lot worse than was reported in a lot of the Tory press.

Given that the political debate has been dominated by the size of the deficit for the seven or eight years up until Brexit. I think that it is hardly surprising that public sector borrowing increasing as a result of the current governments actions gets coverage.
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I fully expect the Tory press to present that argument, just as I expect the Guardian and its ilk to present some nonsense on how that will effect the consumption of kale in Islington. The BBC claims, and is expected, to present an even handed picture. I'm happy just to be amused at articles in the Guardian, whereas I'm forced to fund the BBC under duress and threat of imprisonment.

Yet if you were to read the BBC's news website, the only conclusion one could come to is that the OBR report was one entirely of doom and gloom. Not single mention of the fact that the OBR is predicting that Brexit will have an effect until 2018 and then predicts business as normal, not a hint that inflation will briefly peak and then be as close to the government target as it has been for a decade. They seem to have forgotten their wild claims about house price crashes that the OBR has rubbished nor the EU-thrashing unemployment figures we have that the OBR expects to continue.

I understand that plenty of people will hold and stick to varying positions over Brexit, that's their right to do so. The BBC cannot claim to be neutral though, and only present one of those sides - especially not when the data are coming from the OBR.
 
milo said:
It looks like they are asking for a similar deal to Nissan (as any reasonably sized company will now). If Brexit is such good news for our economy, why are companies asking for the government to pay them to stay here?
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To be fair companies have been doing that to governments all over the world for years, often playing countries of against each other, one could be cynical and say that as good business as it is by the companies doing it, taking advantage of a political situation to further their own interests. The wifes family is Irish and I spend a fair amount of time over there so know a little about Irish life and they have lowered their taxes to take companies from other countries in Europe.

Is good Business on the car companies part and that is all anything is, Business.
 
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