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Politics, politics, politics

the dza said:
It's unfortunate that these pr1cks are always much louder than the non-nutcases who are in left-wing politics.
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It is the same on the right, do you not remember how the media went after the fruitcakes in UKIP, everyone knew the were some decent ones in there but the nutters got the press space. If you want to be involved in politics in this country you need to do it from the centre ground and not the far left or far right.
 
galeforce said:
you'd toss off Trump?
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No throw, could not toss him off, his hair reminds me off my mother in law, she has a wig as well but she had an excuse cos she had cancer. Also despite the fact I cant understand her accent all the time she is an alright woman. Trump in a prize nutter.
 
scaramanga said:
And Clinton is a 40 a day habit.
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I may have got my chicken and egg confused. It may be that Trump is colon cancer and Clinton would be the subsequent erectile dysfunction.

Which would be ironic, as she has a face/personality that would give Russell Brand a case of the droops and a husband that can't help but follow wherever his points.
 
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scaramanga said:
I may have got my chicken and egg confused. It may be that Trump is colon cancer and Clinton would be the subsequent erectile dysfunction.

Which would be ironic, as she has a face/personality that would give Russell Brand a case of the droops and a husband that can't help but follow wherever his points.
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I think it makes Corbyn Hooka - doesn't look quite as bad as smoking but it'll still kill you, although you get to feel smug and superior whilst the doing it

May.....still working on that one
 
Back on topic, what is the current political temperature in Latvia.

Same as everywhere else. Who gives a fudging fudge.

We live together in glorious isolation from the global lunacy.

And only Football kinship divides us (and religion) (and politics if any subsets remain).
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Corbyn wants to raise taxes and borrow 500 billion. The end of Britain if Labour were to get in, he would do more damage then Trump.
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why not borrow when interests rates are low? It makes perfect economic sense. Borrow to expand infrastructure and free up the dead spots and produce more goods and services. The building work will also generate jobs and further increase demand.
 
Gilzeantoscore said:
why not borrow when interests rates are low? It makes perfect economic sense. Borrow to expand infrastructure and free up the dead spots and produce more goods and services. The building work will also generate jobs and further increase demand.
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What do we do when the building work is done? Make them all redundant? Or continue to prop up industry and choose winners?

I'm not sure if you noticed but at the last election, pretty much every single poll made the size of the deficit either the most or the second most (second to immigration) important subject for the electorate. The problem, when you're as deep in debt as our country is, that interest rates don't stay low when you continue to borrow.
 
scaramanga said:
What do we do when the building work is done? Make them all redundant? Or continue to prop up industry and choose winners?

I'm not sure if you noticed but at the last election, pretty much every single poll made the size of the deficit either the most or the second most (second to immigration) important subject for the electorate. The problem, when you're as deep in debt as our country is, that interest rates don't stay low when you continue to borrow.
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It's about updating ageing infrastructure to afford efficiencies in the economy. Debt can sometimes do good things for an economy, it's just not referenced by classical economists, as for them, it's all about mimimisation of government as a an ideological aim, but dressed up as an economic necessity. It's the Kool Aid.
 
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Out of interest are there any countries who are NOT in deficit worldwide? If so, which countries are they?
Also, how does the UK deficit compare to the bigger Economies in the EU such as Germany, France, Spain, Italy etc?
 
Gilzeantoscore said:
It's about updating ageing infrastructure to afford efficiencies in the economy. Debt can sometimes do good things for an economy, it's just not referenced by classical economist, as for them, it's all about mimimisationcontractions of government as a an ideological aim, but dressed up as an economic necessity. It's the Kool Aid.
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Sure. I'd be all for that if we had paid down the debt when we should have.

Unfortunately the one-eyed debt monster fudged us all by continuing to borrow when we had money and then double fudged us by condemning us to decades of spending with his (off balance sheet) PFI flimflam.

We need at least one boom, probably two or three, where we reduce the national debt before we can consider that kind of stimulus.
 
scaramanga said:
Sure. I'd be all for that if we had paid down the debt when we should have.

Unfortunately the one-eyed debt monster fudgeed us all by continuing to borrow when we had money and then double fudgeed us by condemning us to decades of spending with his (off balance sheet) PFI hogwash.

We need at least one boom, probably two or three, where we reduce the national debt before we can consider that kind of stimulus.
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Who is the one-eyed debt monster you're referring to in this context? Blair or Brown?
 
glorygloryeze said:
Out of interest are there any countries who are NOT in deficit worldwide? If so, which countries are they?
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There are quite a few. Off the top of my head, those of a reasonable size are Norway, Sweden and Finland and a few oil-rich places in the Middle East

glorygloryeze said:
Also, how does the UK deficit compare to the bigger Economies in the EU such as Germany, France, Spain, Italy etc?
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It's not as bad as Italy, Greece, etc. Very similar to France (which has a fudged economy).

Germany run somewhere in the 50s in terms of net debt as a % of GDP and is stable, we're somewhere in the low 80s and getting worse.
 
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