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To the experienced politics follower he might gain a following, the problem is there are less and less in todays society that look beyond his media value and appearance.

I listened to him today and he is doomed, doomed I tell you
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34263447

Jeremy Corbyn criticised for 'silence' during national anthem
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Jeremy Corbyn opted to stand in silence during the singing of the national anthem at a service to mark the 75th anniversary of the Battle of Britain.

The new Labour leader, who believes in the abolition of the monarchy, has faced criticism for not joining in.

Tory MP Sir Nicholas Soames - the grandson of Winston Churchill - said the Labour leader had been very rude and disrespectful to the Queen.

David Cameron was also at the service at London's St Paul's Cathedral.

A spokesman for Mr Corbyn said: "Jeremy attended today's event to show respect for those who fought in conflicts for Britain.

"As he said in the words issued this morning, the heroism of the Royal Air Force in the Battle of Britain is something to which we all owe an enormous debt of gratitude. He stood in respectful silence during the anthem."

His decision attracted attention on social media, and Sir Nicholas said it had been "very disrespectful to the Battle of Britain pilots who gave their all".

"I think he needs to make his mind up whether he is a grown-up or not," he said.

'Tremendous courage'
Tuesday's service was Mr Corbyn's first official ceremonial engagement since becoming Labour leader.

During the event, he sat next to senior members of the RAF, including ACM Sir Andrew Pulford, and other politicians, including Defence Secretary Michael Fallon.

The service focused on honouring the "many" who supported the Battle of Britain pilots described by Winston Churchill as "the few".

Ahead of the event, Mr Corbyn highlighted the fact that his mother had served as an air raid warden and his father in the Home Guard.

He said: "Like that whole generation, they showed tremendous courage and determination to defeat fascism.

"The heroism of the Royal Air Force in the Battle of Britain is something to which we all owe an enormous debt of gratitude."

After the service, he said it had made him think of his mother and "the ARP [air raid precautions] medal she was given".

Downing Street said Mr Cameron - who has weekly audiences with the Queen - attached "importance" to the national anthem and was "very proud" to sing it.

The prime minister's official spokeswoman said: "The importance that the PM attaches to the national anthem is visible every time he is at one of these commemorative services. He is very proud and willing to join with others singing the national anthem."

Mr Corbyn is a long-standing republican but has said he will accept an invitation to become a member of the Privy Council - a historic body made up of current senior and former politicians, which advises the Queen on affairs of state.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
whats with the wenger thing? do not tell me he is an Ar5ena1 fan. I can forgive him all the other weird extreme ideas but I can not forgive that.
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He's MP for Islington - he represents people that are clams because they support Arsenal, clams because they're champagne socialists or both.
 
Notmegov said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34263447

Jeremy Corbyn criticised for 'silence' during national anthem
_85566595_5fe7b72d-0a25-4aa1-8a7d-2a32a52c3c26.jpg
Image copyrightPA
Jeremy Corbyn opted to stand in silence during the singing of the national anthem at a service to mark the 75th anniversary of the Battle of Britain.

The new Labour leader, who believes in the abolition of the monarchy, has faced criticism for not joining in.

Tory MP Sir Nicholas Soames - the grandson of Winston Churchill - said the Labour leader had been very rude and disrespectful to the Queen.

David Cameron was also at the service at London's St Paul's Cathedral.

A spokesman for Mr Corbyn said: "Jeremy attended today's event to show respect for those who fought in conflicts for Britain.

"As he said in the words issued this morning, the heroism of the Royal Air Force in the Battle of Britain is something to which we all owe an enormous debt of gratitude. He stood in respectful silence during the anthem."

His decision attracted attention on social media, and Sir Nicholas said it had been "very disrespectful to the Battle of Britain pilots who gave their all".

"I think he needs to make his mind up whether he is a grown-up or not," he said.

'Tremendous courage'
Tuesday's service was Mr Corbyn's first official ceremonial engagement since becoming Labour leader.

During the event, he sat next to senior members of the RAF, including ACM Sir Andrew Pulford, and other politicians, including Defence Secretary Michael Fallon.

The service focused on honouring the "many" who supported the Battle of Britain pilots described by Winston Churchill as "the few".

Ahead of the event, Mr Corbyn highlighted the fact that his mother had served as an air raid warden and his father in the Home Guard.

He said: "Like that whole generation, they showed tremendous courage and determination to defeat fascism.

"The heroism of the Royal Air Force in the Battle of Britain is something to which we all owe an enormous debt of gratitude."

After the service, he said it had made him think of his mother and "the ARP [air raid precautions] medal she was given".

Downing Street said Mr Cameron - who has weekly audiences with the Queen - attached "importance" to the national anthem and was "very proud" to sing it.

The prime minister's official spokeswoman said: "The importance that the PM attaches to the national anthem is visible every time he is at one of these commemorative services. He is very proud and willing to join with others singing the national anthem."

Mr Corbyn is a long-standing republican but has said he will accept an invitation to become a member of the Privy Council - a historic body made up of current senior and former politicians, which advises the Queen on affairs of state.
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What a load of gonads, anyone who gets concerned by this sort of thing is an imbecile, it's a fudging song.
 
milo said:
I think that the issue with that is that most voters only engage with politics once every five years and by then will have made up their mind about the opposition.

The other issue with social media is that all too often it is an echo chamber with activists speaking to the converted.
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Don't get me wrong. I only see social media as being useful in the crudest of propaganda terms, you know a bit like the Daily Telegraph.
 
Is this a fair representation of the media landscape in the UK by political affiliation?

Tory: The Daily Telegraph, The Times, The Daily Mail, The Sun, The Metro, The London Evening Standard, The Daily Star, Sky News

UKIP: The Daily Express

Labour: The Guardian, The Mirror, The Daily Record

Centre: The Independent, BBC, Channel 4 News, Financial Times, The Herald
 
So Corbyn has started by proving he is the left wing Farage - all moral standing/I'll do it my way as that's what I believe in. Screw conformity.

I respect that - and, much like with UKIP, that is exactly what many people have been asking for. Someone who is true & honest, not just a clone.

The real teat of a leader of course, and something Farage didn't really experience, is to be able to balance that with whilst also representing the electorate and countrys best interests.

We won't know if he can do that for at least 6 months as the media will make it the Corbyn show until then - like some freak show political version of big brother.
 
glorygloryeze said:
Is this a fair representation of the media landscape in the UK by political affiliation?

Tory: The Daily Telegraph, The Times, The Daily Mail, The Sun, The Metro, The London Evening Standard, The Daily Star, Sky News

UKIP: The Daily Express

Labour: The Guardian, The Mirror, The Daily Record

Centre: The Independent, BBC, Channel 4 News, Financial Times, The Herald
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The Times is very centrist, The Mail more UKIP than Tory IMO. The Sun flip-flops between any centre ground parties. The Star doesn't really discuss politics - I remember it being anti-Gordon Brown at one point, but then so was everyone.

BBC is definitely left wing, to even attempt to describe it as anything else is just silly.

I'm not sure why you're including local papers - you left out the Chichester Observer and the Liverpool Echo. I don't suppose you did it to make the Tory list look bigger by any chance did you?
 
scaramanga said:
The Times is very centrist, The Mail more UKIP than Tory IMO. The Sun flip-flops between any centre ground parties. The Star doesn't really discuss politics - I remember it being anti-Gordon Brown at one point, but then so was everyone.

BBC is definitely left wing, to even attempt to describe it as anything else is just silly.

I'm not sure why you're including local papers - you left out the Chichester Observer and the Liverpool Echo. I don't suppose you did it to make the Tory list look bigger by any chance did you?
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The Times is more centralist than the Telegraph but it is definitely a right wing paper. The Mail does not like Cameron but again is a Tory paper. The Sun likes to back whoever is going to win but its content is overwhelmingly right wing.

The BBC is required to be balanced which makes it look left wing in comparison to most of the rest of the media landscape.

BBC news is driven in part by what the newspapers lead on. During the last election this meant that it's coverage in the latter half of the campaign was dominated by what the Conservative supporting papers were leading on.
 
milo said:
The Times is more centralist than the Telegraph but it is definitely a right wing paper. The Mail does not like Cameron but again is a Tory paper. The Sun likes to back whoever is going to win but its content is overwhelmingly right wing.
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The Times pushed for a Con/Lib coalition at the last two elections, the two before that it supported Labour. To me, that's about as centrist as a paper can be.

milo said:
The BBC is required to be balanced which makes it look left wing in comparison to most of the rest of the media landscape.

BBC news is driven in part by what the newspapers lead on. During the last election this meant that it's coverage in the latter half of the campaign was dominated by what the Conservative supporting papers were leading on.
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You're right to say that the BBC is required to be balanced and, unlike many, I believe it genuinely tries to be so.

The issue with the BBC is that it has packed its staff full of Islington bien pensants who end up groupthinking their way to a left-leaning agenda. They believe they are balanced, but attempting to provide balance from such a left wing base will always lean to the left.
 
scaramanga said:
The Times pushed for a Con/Lib coalition at the last two elections, the two before that it supported Labour. To me, that's about as centrist as a paper can be.


You're right to say that the BBC is required to be balanced and, unlike many, I believe it genuinely tries to be so.

The issue with the BBC is that it has packed its staff full of Islington bien pensants who end up groupthinking their way to a left-leaning agenda. They believe they are balanced, but attempting to provide balance from such a left wing base will always lean to the left.
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I think that the TImes argued for a continuation of the coalition at the last election because, like everyone else, they did not think that a majority was possible. I would agree that it is more centralist than the Telegraph, Mail and Sun though.

I think that the BBC is a far broader church that it is often given credit for. We also should remember that a lot of the attacks on it are orchestrated by media owners who want to see it diminished so that they can make money in the space vacated.
 
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