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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

The whole UNWRA thing is a microcosm of the whole Israel/Palestine thing. I have no doubt that UNWRA is compromised and used by Hamas. I have no doubt that UNWRA funded and enabled the attack on Israel. International aid organisations and charities are known to be used to finance and assist international terrorism.

BUT, if Israel hadn't consistently overstepped the mark, there wouldn't be an almost constant stream of people motivated enough to do all this stuff to them in the first place so the whole "is UNWRA helping terrorists?" Issue is a complete irrelevance to me because if you stop the conflict and the cycle of revenge you stop the terrorism and you actually stop the need for UNWRA to exist as Palestine has an opportunity to build itself as a vibrant independent and self-sufficient state alongside Israel. Anyone that doesn't think this is the only solution (two-states mutually respectful of each other) fundamentally needs their head examined, particularly in the context of last year's events.....
 
He's not an MP and seems really dedicated to being an excellent major

Brilliant Mayor, fights for his city, can't knock him for that and the city has evolved so much, such a cool place to go now days.

I still maintain David Miliband not being involved in Labour is a massive loss for them, by far one of the most slick and impressive options they had
 
Im no Starmer fan but it does make me laugh how rhetoric changes.

We have gone from patting Boris on the back as one of the lads for banging anything that moves to these levels of judgement
 
WE?

Think you're on your own there.

The wider we, I didn't label you

I hate the cnut so I am not on my own about anything, facts were he was painted as a pantomime legend to have a drink with by a fair few, he was Teflon till his own part turned on him. Many would not have a word said against him on here for sure

The Jennifer Arcuri story was hardly met with any kind of shock or outrage
 
We, you're joking me, don't include me, they are all fudging top cretins

Hahah I don't get why people are taking that so personally, I am not pointing any finger at individuals.

But there was a wider view on Boris that what ever he did wrong till the end was seen a a jovial jack the lad who people wanted to buy a pint for. The scandals that followed him before he even became PM would have been the death of many a politician, he seemingly carried that on as a bade of honour with many.
 
Hahah I don't get why people are taking that so personally, I am not pointing any finger at individuals.

But there was a wider view on Boris that what ever he did wrong till the end was seen a a jovial jack the lad who people wanted to buy a pint for. The scandals that followed him before he even became PM would have been the death of many a politician, he seemingly carried that on as a bade of honour with many.
Boris at least did seem to like the UK and the people in it
Starmer really doesn't
 
Boris at least did seem to like the UK and the people in it
Starmer really doesn't

Except championing Brexit which was massively harmful to industry and then rinsing the country of money to feather the nests of his mates with the fast lane contracting.

Like many he talked a good game on occasion to make people believe he cared and delivered very little substance.

The immigrant crisis that people seem massively concerned about was exasperated and grew under him and then subsequently got worse when he left under the "we will stop the boats" campaign. Whats the saying.....money talks and bullsh1t walks
 
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