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****OMT - TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs WOOLWICH ARSEnal****

WTF, he got stretchered off for cramp lol. I was expecting 2 weeks out with a muscle injury etc. I'd rest Eriksen, Lennon, Dembele and Ade for this one all the same, they won't play their first string and we shouldn't risk injuries when the league is more important.

Naughton--Dawson--Veljkovic--Fryers
Chadli--Capoue--Bentaleb---Holtby---
---------Lamela-----Kane-----------

Are you mad? This is the cup that everyone plays football for. We play most hated rival and therefore it is the most anticipated derby we have. This game is our chance to through a spanner in their works and deny them the chance to win this cup this year. Fvck the league. We are Tottenham Hotspur, we aim for the glory.
 
If he gets carried off on stretcher like a dying swan and all he has is cramp then it is funny.

We were a goal up away to United and being put under real pressure. Instead of limping off (like he apparently started doing) he sat down, gave us time to ready the substitute and pass some instructions along while he was getting on the stretcher.

Cynical and the right thing to do in that situation.
 
Sorry. Must-win for me.

When was the last time we beat ARSEnal in a cup game??

And some of you think we should REST players for this ffs.

Let's see how you'll feel about that if we get spanked. Believe me you'll HATE it.
In fact, you all know a win in this tie will feel MUCH sweeter than yesterday's great win at OT.

Come on let's beat these Woolwich Wanderers.

COYS!
 
We were a goal up away to United and being put under real pressure. Instead of limping off (like he apparently started doing) he sat down, gave us time to ready the substitute and pass some instructions along while he was getting on the stretcher.

Cynical and the right thing to do in that situation.
All right, then.

I was gutted when I saw him stretchered off. But now I see it was time wasting. Makes all my anguish seem worthwhile.
 
We were a goal up away to United and being put under real pressure. Instead of limping off (like he apparently started doing) he sat down, gave us time to ready the substitute and pass some instructions along while he was getting on the stretcher.

Cynical and the right thing to do in that situation.

You certainly would not have seen a United player walk off the field quickly and with no fuss
 
Also, don't you think this is their best chance of a trophy (never mind ours) and don't you want to be able to say 9 years and counting in May??

We win, perhaps they start moaning about Wenger and the board again.
COYS!
 
All right, then.

I was gutted when I saw him stretchered off. But now I see it was time wasting. Makes all my anguish seem worthwhile.

That's cool, it was frustrating as he was great in the game. He was clearly tiring before coming off so getting fresh legs on did us well anyway I think.

You certainly would not have seen a United player walk off the field quickly and with no fuss

Not at all. Sometimes I feel that we're a bit too naive. Ade sitting down, Kane booting the ball, it's all good.
 
I can feel it in my water..we will win this one. Will be in complete contrast to the EPL game. Ironically we bombarded them but with no excitement or chances and they hung on.
 
I can feel it in my water..we will win this one. Will be in complete contrast to the EPL game. Ironically we bombarded them but with no excitement or chances and they hung on.

I think we will lose but with a bit of luck we could win, although dont mind if we draw and get those ****s back to our place although I think we would lose that one.

I think TS would see them as theyre there for the taking which I would agree with.
 
Winning this is detrimental to their season and they start worrying about x amount of years & no trophy's...

It puts more pressure on their squad.......

We need to deny them another trophy opportunity or die trying!!!!!

We need to win this and then we can all start reflecting on a lovely couple of weeks and we can all get our no*s out and start waving them around!!!!!!!!!!

those saying they are meh about this will change their tune come 17:15 Saturday.
 
I think we will lose but with a bit of luck we could win, although dont mind if we draw and get those ****s back to our place although I think we would lose that one.

basically your not quite sure are you??;)
 
Winning this is detrimental to their season and they start worrying about x amount of years & no trophy's...

It puts more pressure on their squad.......

We need to deny them another trophy opportunity or die trying!!!!!

We need to win this and then we can all start reflecting on a lovely couple of weeks and we can all get our no*s out and start waving them around!!!!!!!!!!

those saying they are meh about this will change their tune come 17:15 Saturday.

I don't think anyone is saying that we shouldn't try our hardest.

Not sure what you mean with the "die trying" bit, if you're implying that we should risk players that are carrying injuries I disagree. If you're saying that the players that are on the pitch have to do their absolute utmost I agree.

We're in a very good position though where losing this won't be disastrous. We're still in with a real shout for a top 4 finish, we're in the EL and will have a chance for a trophy even with a loss. It makes a potential defeat easier to take, at least for me. There was a time when a game like this was a "must win" as in the season would effectively be over at this stage if we didn't win.
 
I think we will lose but with a bit of luck we could win, although dont mind if we draw and get those ****s back to our place although I think we would lose that one.

I think TS would see them as theyre there for the taking which I would agree with.

I forgot a draw means a replay...
 
I don't think anyone is saying that we shouldn't try our hardest.

Not sure what you mean with the "die trying" bit, if you're implying that we should risk players that are carrying injuries I disagree. If you're saying that the players that are on the pitch have to do their absolute utmost I agree.

We're in a very good position though where losing this won't be disastrous. We're still in with a real shout for a top 4 finish, we're in the EL and will have a chance for a trophy even with a loss. It makes a potential defeat easier to take, at least for me. There was a time when a game like this was a "must win" as in the season would effectively be over at this stage if we didn't win.

I dont mean we should risk injured players of course....But our players should treat this as the fa cup final because of the quality of the opposition involved, yes I mean our players should try their utmost.

While I see the reason of your last paragraph I disagree with and would hate our players to even consider these thoughts.... winning breeds more confidence - builds momentum and may enable us to replicate what they did last season (put a long run of results together) we should not consider that defeat is acceptable in any way shape or form....not if we want to move forward and prove we are hungry winners and not bottlers that gets thrown at us...

I will always be gutted at losing to them....be it fa cup league league cup, champions league or a charity game or a game of tiddlywinks

We need a winning mentality from our players & our coaching staff.

yep I want us to give it our all and then some without the its ok if we lose mentality.
 
I dont mean we should risk injured players of course....But our players should treat this as the fa cup final because of the quality of the opposition involved, yes I mean our players should try their utmost.

While I see the reason of your last paragraph I disagree with and would hate our players to even consider these thoughts.... winning breeds more confidence - builds momentum and may enable us to replicate what they did last season (put a long run of results together) we should not consider that defeat is acceptable in any way shape or form....not if we want to move forward and prove we are hungry winners and not bottlers that gets thrown at us...

I will always be gutted at losing to them....be it fa cup league league cup, champions league or a charity game or a game of tiddlywinks

We need a winning mentality from our players & our coaching staff.

yep I want us to give it our all and then some without the its ok if we lose mentality.

I don't disagree with any of that for us as fans, but to me if we can make this a close game that could go either way we'll have done really well. A that point it's at least partly down to luck or chance if we take our chances or they take their chances, if we make the telling mistake or they do, if the ref's decision goes their way or our way.

Thus I don't see it as a massive mentality issue if we don't win. Part of the mentality a professional team must have is accepting that sometimes it's not your day and you move on without letting it influence your next game. For me mental toughness comes from being prepared for all eventualities, not from some mythical "only winning is acceptable" approach. If a defeat is in fact unacceptable, what then if we actually do lose? What does that do to your self belief, your confidence etc.
 
If we are any good we should not be fearing Arsenal. I was really annoyed how AVB set about the home game vs United. Why the respect..let them respect US!!

I have never felt as confident going into a big game since Ramos was here.
 
I don't disagree with any of that for us as fans, but to me if we can make this a close game that could go either way we'll have done really well. A that point it's at least partly down to luck or chance if we take our chances or they take their chances, if we make the telling mistake or they do, if the ref's decision goes their way or our way.

Thus I don't see it as a massive mentality issue if we don't win. Part of the mentality a professional team must have is accepting that sometimes it's not your day and you move on without letting it influence your next game. For me mental toughness comes from being prepared for all eventualities, not from some mythical "only winning is acceptable" approach. If a defeat is in fact unacceptable, what then if we actually do lose? What does that do to your self belief, your confidence etc.

Well Its about getting your mentality spot on regarding how you go into games...coupled with how you react to a set-back...eg losing. to answer the question 'what do we do if we lose' We act like demented ferrets getting our training and preparation tip top for the next game so we can put in a peformance and win....right the wrong straight away if you like...if that means minimal laughing around on the training pitch and deadly serious then so be it.

I agree with your sentiments about not letting things affect you to much......I just think we have an opportunity to go on a run of wins if we can pull something out of the bag saturday.

Dont get me wrong I wont be knee jerking if we do lose but I will be inconsolable for a bit.

In terms of self belief and confidence and to mould a winning team I dont think you can ever have a midset in which losing is bearable......Roy Keane must have been the most anoying person in training after a bad result....but he made damn sure that standards wouldnt drop and things would be turned around quickly.

Not that I think you need 11 players with his mentality....but there you go! I guess I want to win this very much and appologise if my posts come accross as a bit full-on.

Just really want to win this[-o<
 
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