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*** OMT Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United ***

Daveeeeeeeed said:
Because that's what Ange wants mate.

There was a time in the first half, I vividly remember when it would have been easier for Spence or Gray to whack it out, but they all worked together intrinsically to pass it out, very dangerously, and right by the corner flag but they ended up being successful and keeping possession and getting out of being closed in.

If they keep whacking it they just lose possession and have to win it back.

Yes it's dangerous but know one talks about it when it's successful and it happens a hell of a lot, people only talk about it when mistakes are made and goals happen from them. Naturally, but mistakes happen.

I bloody love this football and hate it when they hoof it now
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Yes, but why does Ange not want to change when we're 2 or 3 up. When we need a goal and we're trying to use it to create, 100% agree with playing out from the back, in a smart way. But at 2 or 3 up a bit more pragmitism and don't give away cheap goals or chances.
 
Fair play to Postecoglou, he's earned himself a stay of execution with those two wins. TBF, the keeper aside, I thought tonight was actually one of the best overall performances I've seen from one of his Spurs sides. We actually seemed to be making an attempt to manage the lead. An old dog might be able to learn new tricks after all ... We shall see what the future brings.
 
SpurMeUp said:
Forster was playing it long. Idk what people are watching. Ange doesn't mind them playing it long now and again. But, like many many many other sides, we aspire to control games and retain possession.
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I think a lot of people are falling back on old narratives rather than seeing the actual match that just happened. BTW, for their third, Solanke is usually in and around that front post.
 
DubSpur said:
Yes, but why does Ange not want to change when we're 2 or 3 up. When we need a goal and we're trying to use it to create, 100% agree with playing out from the back, in a smart way. But at 2 or 3 up a bit more pragmitism and don't give away cheap goals or chances.
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No idea sir, I don't think we will ever know or see it either.
 
mudshark said:
Fair play to Postecoglou, he's earned himself a stay of execution with those two wins. TBF, the keeper aside, I thought tonight was actually one of the best overall performances I've seen from one of his Spurs sides. We actually seemed to be making an attempt to manage the lead. An old dog might be able to learn new tricks after all ... We shall see what the future brings.
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Not sure of you're being serious?
 
Daveeeeeeeed said:
Because that's what Ange wants mate.

There was a time in the first half, I vividly remember when it would have been easier for Spence or Gray to whack it out, but they all worked together intrinsically to pass it out, very dangerously, and right by the corner flag but they ended up being successful and keeping possession and getting out of being closed in.

If they keep whacking it they just lose possession and have to win it back.

Yes it's dangerous but know one talks about it when it's successful and it happens a hell of a lot, people only talk about it when mistakes are made and goals happen from them. Naturally, but mistakes happen.

I bloody love this football and hate it when they hoof it now
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I don't think a single person on any Spurs forum for the last 20 years has stated that we should just always kick it out...

Play out when we can, but some times, it just needs to be hoofed, otherwise you put yourself in serious situation that costs us goals.

Both times he should have hoofed it. Vicario does exactly the same.

I am fine with a policy of playing out from the back, but for the love of fecking gods of common fecking sense, at least train them to use that grey matter between the ears and and train them to identify when it's okay to just clear you fecking lines.

Seriously, this is supposed a profession club, with professional players, with professional coachs.

Forster tonight should never have happened.
 
DeanoAustin said:
Don’t agree Steff. We have ridiculous stats for not going long from the back. It’s being encouraged by the manager. Of course Forster has massive culpability but that’s how he’s being told to play despite not really being capable of it. Good goalkeeper but not a footballer.

It was an unbelievable game. We got through so alls well that ends well. But we need to be a bit more clever.
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I disagree in turn. We were absolutely killing and controlling that game. We were keeping the ball, not looking to break at pace every minute, it was in fact similar to second-half at Soton. You cannot mandate for mistakes like Forster made. You'll remember that I banged on about him not being able to play with his feet the moment Vic was hurt. That was not the issue tonight. He lost focus and concentration, which is awful for a senior player. The first was poor, the second absolutely criminal. what saved us tonight was that we then did NOT resort to hoofing the ball any time it got close to our box; had we done that, they'd have won IMO.
 
SkipRat said:
I don't think a single person on any Spurs forum for the last 20 years has stated that we should just always kick it out...

Play out when we can, but some times, it just needs to be hoofed, otherwise you put yourself in serious situation that costs us goals.

Both times he should have hoofed it. Vicario does exactly the same.

I am fine with a policy of playing out from the back, but for the love of fecking gods of common fecking sense, at least train them to use that grey matter between the ears and and train them to identify when it's okay to just clear you fecking lines.

Seriously, this is supposed a profession club, with professional players, with professional coachs.

Forster tonight should never have happened.
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He had an adjacent defender facing forwards in yards of space and wide of him. He simply needed to pass it on. He dithered. Watch them again. It was psychological as much as club footed.
 
thfcsteff said:
I disagree in turn. We were absolutely killing and controlling that game. We were keeping the ball, not looking to break at pace every minute, it was in fact similar to second-half at Soton. You cannot mandate for mistakes like Forster made. You'll remember that I banged on about him not being able to play with his feet the moment Vic was hurt. That was not the issue tonight. He lost focus and concentration, which is awful for a senior player. The first was poor, the second absolutely criminal. what saved us tonight was that we then did NOT resort to hoofing the ball any time it got close to our box; had we done that, they'd have won IMO.
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The second one he could have moved towards the ball and cleared it before the utd player got anywhere near him, but his head was gone and he not only waited for the ball but retreated from it.
 
SteveAWOL said:
Hmmm, didn’t realise that tonight’s bookings mean that Maddison and Sarr are suspended for the first leg of semi-final.

Hopefully Bentancur, Moore and Richarlison are match sharp by the 8th / 9th.
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So Bergvall, Biss and Bentancur? Or Deki with Biss and Bentancur?
 
Mrs Vert said:
I just legit cannot understand how these group of adults cannot fundamentally understand how to manage a game
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It’s insane. Watching from quite high up in the West it was hard to comprehend why we were rushing at 3-0 and 3-1 to take goal kicks, throw ins, free kicks…madness.
fernadez said:
I just don't like the way he doesn't do anything from the sidelines. I can't understand that watching us play like that, he's got no wisdom to impart to his players.

Shaking your head and folding and unfolding your arms are not the tactical adjustments needed.

Has he just seriously asked if we're not entertained and would prefer a 1-0?
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Does anyone know who that coach was on the bench organising the Bergvall sub and going apesht when we were letting the goals in? Ange seemed oblivious as he was operating behind him, but he seemed to be in charge of the team for about 10 minutes. Ange had the best view of any spectator in the stadium second half; no wonder he was entertained. :D
 
Probably been said but good to see Mikey Moore with the injured players watching. Don’t think he’s been with that group near the bench since he’s been out. Hopefully means he’s better and close to a return.
 
glasgowspur said:
The second one he could have moved towards the ball and cleared it before the utd player got anywhere near him, but his head was gone and he not only waited for the ball but retreated from it.
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It was actually shocking to see. I felt we'd see it out for 3-2 at that stage, because I sensed a grit and determination about us tonight to overcome whatever came our way...
 
Mikey10 said:
It’s insane. Watching from quite high up in the West it was hard to comprehend why we were rushing at 3-0 and 3-1 to take goal kicks, throw ins, free kicks…madness.
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Especially when almost every game we see so much time wasting from the opposition, it's barmy !!
 
SkipRat said:
I don't think a single person on any Spurs forum for the last 20 years has stated that we should just always kick it out...

Play out when we can, but some times, it just needs to be hoofed, otherwise you put yourself in serious situation that costs us goals.

Both times he should have hoofed it. Vicario does exactly the same.

I am fine with a policy of playing out from the back, but for the love of fecking gods of common fecking sense, at least train them to use that grey matter between the ears and and train them to identify when it's okay to just clear you fecking lines.

Seriously, this is supposed a profession club, with professional players, with professional coachs.

Forster tonight should never have happened.
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You got to hope Forster won’t be doing the same again in future games and goes long, hopefully learnt his lesson 🙏
 
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