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OMT Spurs v Athletico

thfcsteff said:
I have made my opinions on Frank very clear. I have also acknowledged that he did not necessarily get the support necessary from those around him. I have also made my opinions very very clear as to the mistake I think was made by the club in the summer with regards to (essentially) brickt ing hard on a trophy win in Europe and finding a spectacular way to suck the life out of the players, club and fanbase by continually telling us how 'shi t' we supposedly are. You say he set up to compensate for things we lacked? I disagree. Defensively solid? Come on. He essentially decided to set us up to play counter attacking football via long balls. If you think that is compensation, then we have very different ideas.

As to the earlier post from someone who bored off about the 'style mob' turning up and complaining early doors, let me be very fu cking clear.
I was TOLD we were being set up to play exciting, attacking, front-foot, daring football.
We were NOT!
Had there been even a DEGREE of honesty, it might've been easier to stomach.

Finally, and again addressed to THAT poster in particular (cannot remember who it was0...;the day I apologise to people like YOU for wanting my football club to continue standing for what they've always stood for is the the day I walk away from football. F uck THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I do think that these next 9 games require a win at all costs/methods mentality - like the last four in the EL did last season)
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Fundementally I think we are brick and I have done for quite a while. Ange's first season or at least the begining of it was a good reprieve but we eventually fell back to a more accurate level. I do not believe this team is capable of playing front football effectively. I just don't, we of course rate our players very differently, so that's an area we will likely never quite agree on.

So with Frank deciding to try to be defensively solid I could understand. We have no defense, we leak goals like a sive. 60+ leagues conceded season after season just isn't sustainable so if Frank felt (quite fairly imo) that we didn't have the players to effectively play openly then I didn't mind seeing him try for the longer pass counter football. It's not a football style I like or enjoy, but sorting out the fudging defense was priority and should be a priority for whenever takes us over. We do not have the attacking quality to outscore our defense. I would have let him have this season after which I would then expect to see some progression in instilling a better style of football.
 
thfcsteff said:
You know EXACTLY what you did with your first comment.

I will NEVER apologise for wanting us to be who we are.

Our major issues came when he started to encounter injuries.

My consistent question was 'what are we building and what are we being patient for'? You care to tell me? Because when he was sacked (far too LATE IMO) we were the sum total of sh ite and heading south.

I don't especially want to argue with fellow postees, we're all upset, but I can't be having low-ball studs up stuff like what you threw in there...
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we were that twice, for about 18 months each time, most recently 65 years ago

I don't think that is actually who we are
 
Robbo said:
Surely it has to be. I mean, we've mostly been the creators of our own misfortune, but man have we had a massive share of bad luck too. Nothing surprises me anymore.
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The football gods have been bending us over for years. I think they must have been asleep when we won the Europa last season. No doubt they were fuming when they woke and heard the score. This season is their vengeance.
 
Spoonman said:
The football gods have been bending us over for years. I think they must have been asleep when we won the Europa last season. No doubt they were fuming when they woke and heard the score. This season is their vengeance.
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If I had a Time Machine I'd go back to last May and get United the win.

It's been disastrous for us.
 
Baleforce said:
he is thick as mince isn't he
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Yeah, he really is.

Rorschach said:
Yeah that will be the vid they show in referee school on clear-cut red cards not given. I will say in real time, the trajectory of the ball looked like he made contact with it.
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I cannot believe how VAR didn't send him straight off. Compare this to that light scratch down VVD's calf that had Xavi off to the shower, and it's even more baffling.
 
Robbo said:
He's 79 and would probably die in the dug out when we're 2-0 up against Forest, only for the game to be rearranged with us losing.
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At least the atmosphere at nWHL will seem positively delightful compared to all the Peaky Blinders wannabes at Cheltenham this week!

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DeanoAustin said:
An interim manager who has lost 4 from 4 and conceded 14 goals along the way whilst clearly tinkling off members of the squad with harsh treatment...

If my surname was Lewis, I'd be drawing conclusions pretty quickly.
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The trouble is everyone can see it apart from the people who run our club. Everything from the past few seasons, the player recruitment the manager and coaches recruitment and DOF and technical staff recruitment has been slowly bringing the club down. The only bright spots was winning the Europa League and reaching the Champions League final apart from that it has been slowly downhill for about 5 years now
 
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