I would love us to get Bielsa. Marseille are strongly linked with him but i think if we made him an offer he'd choose us over them. Did brilliantly at Athletic Bilbao taking them to the Europa League Final (knocking out Man United) and took them to the Copa Del Rey final in the same season. Took to Chile to their best ever finish at the World Cup and in my opinion he goes a bit under the radar. He is the best coach in the world according to Guardiola. The only downside is that like LVG he's getting on a bit (he's 58) and isn't really a long term solution but you can't argue with his record.
Surely Sherwood has no chance at spurs. There would be a revolt. Even Levy can't be that stupid
It's really a process of elimination. Strip out the impossible, and what's left is the possible. Doing that, I'm left with LvG or Sherwood to Spurs.
> Ancelotti
Before today, I held out hope we might have an outside shot at CA simply because he doesn't seem to like La Liga, Madrid or, for that matter, Real. But after today, he's the no-brainer No. 1 pick for United, so if he leaves RM it's pretty much impossible to see how he comes to Spurs.
> LvG
LvG's sole criteria seems to be: the best job he can get in England. This summer, that will almost certainly mean United first and Spurs second. So I think if he misses out on United, he'll come to Spurs.
> Sherwood
But if we miss out on LvG, who's next on Levy's list? Oddschecker:
1. Allegri
2. LvG
3. Poccetinho
4. Moyes
5. Rafa
6. Mancini
7. FdB
8. Klinsmann
9. Hiddink
10. Malkey Makay
11. Laudrup
12. Ancelloti
13. Prandelli
14. Capello
15. Hoddle
16. Poyet
17. Klopp
18. Spaletti
19. Donadoni
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/...manent-manager
From Levy's perspective, there are significant and legitimate concerns/problems with all these candidates for one reason or other:
No chance: Ancelotti (as above), Klopp (lol)
Not no chance, but basically, no chance: Klinsmann (likes nice life in US and has made that clear many times), de Boer (why come to 6th place, no CL Spurs when he could have his pick of CL teams, including perhaps Barca? Arsenal job next year maybe? Also, has a job he likes at the moment.)
Repeat of Santini/Ramos appointments/mistakes: Allegri, Spaletti
Repeat of AVB appointment/mistakes: Poccetinho, Donadoni
In a job: Rafa (not much sign he'll be sacked, or that he'd bail on a CL team after 1 season to come to Spurs), Hiddink (has new contract with Holland), Prandelli (just signed new contract with Itally to EC '16).
Horrible fit for Spurs/WTF??/Not good enough: Capello, Mancini, Mackay (!?), Laudrup, Poyet, Hoddle, Moyes (I just can't see Levy picking up sloppy seconds/damaged goods from Chelsea and United in consecutive seasons. Plus, it's Moyes.).
So Levy's choice is to take a decision to overcome/live with/ignore the listed problem with each of those candidates...or give Sherwood his 12 months.
The path of least resistance there is to just let Sherwood continue. And I think it's what Levy will do.
..........
So basically I see it as LvG or Sherwood, with the only name on that list who's the slightest other possibility being Frank de Boer if he just decides he wants London and a "project", likes Verts/Eriksen, doesn't get offered Barca, doesn't fancy waiting for Arsenal, hears nice things from BMJ etc. etc. Long, long shot.
Would there be a revolt? There might be a mini melt down with some on here but the fans who attend the games haven't exactly created a poisonous atmosphere and that's usually how its all gauged. If there's constant booing and chanting 'Sherwood out' then for sure, but there hasn't been that and its not surprising because on the pitch Sherwood has been doing a decent job....
Not sure how you all can be 100% sure Spaletti, Allegri or anyone else for that matter would be another Santini or Ramos. Tell me what attributes of their's in terms of their coaching makes them so similar. Or is it because they are foreign and their English isn't fantastic?
The yardstick that some of these failed elsewhere shouldn't automatically discount them from the race. Rodgers was sacked by Reading. Martinez relegated with Wigan. Who'd say no to them now?
Surely we should be looking at characteristics of a manager, the style of football they want to implement, and see if it's a fit for what we want to achieve.
I fully agree with Jordinho's earlier post. We don't necessarily need a football hipster manager like tucher or Bielsa necessarily. Could be from a lower league if they've shown great promise and the traits that we'd like in our next manager.
As much as I would like that to be true, I think that one of the main criteria we should be looking for is someone who can unite the fans and win the instant respect of the dressing room.
The risk with a manager who is unproven in a top league is that the mumoring and infighting continue and the new man isn't given a chance.
Thank you for supporting the 'Rafa-lution', as Liverpool fans put it. Out of curiosity, what do you see in De Boer and Pochettino that makes you rate them highly? As far as I can tell, De Boer isn't drastically different or special: his Ajax side just lost 5-1 to newly promoted Zwolle in the KNVB Cup final, and hasn't really pulled up trees in Europe either despite possessing a very formidable squad of talent. Similarly, Pochettino's win percentage across his career stands at 33 percent, Espanyol sacked him after he took them near the relegation zone and Southampton's net spend under him has been considerable, to say the least, which somewhat undercuts his best achievement to date, namely that of putting Southampton in a safe mid-table spot.
It's really a process of elimination. Strip out the impossible, and what's left is the possible. Doing that, I'm left with LvG or Sherwood to Spurs.
> Ancelotti
Before today, I held out hope we might have an outside shot at CA simply because he doesn't seem to like La Liga, Madrid or, for that matter, Real. But after today, he's the no-brainer No. 1 pick for United, so if he leaves RM it's pretty much impossible to see how he comes to Spurs.
> LvG
LvG's sole criteria seems to be: the best job he can get in England. This summer, that will almost certainly mean United first and Spurs second. So I think if he misses out on United, he'll come to Spurs.
> Sherwood
But if we miss out on LvG, who's next on Levy's list? Oddschecker:
1. Allegri
2. LvG
3. Poccetinho
4. Moyes
5. Rafa
6. Mancini
7. FdB
8. Klinsmann
9. Hiddink
10. Malkey Makay
11. Laudrup
12. Ancelloti
13. Prandelli
14. Capello
15. Hoddle
16. Poyet
17. Klopp
18. Spaletti
19. Donadoni
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/...manent-manager
From Levy's perspective, there are significant and legitimate concerns/problems with all these candidates for one reason or other:
No chance: Ancelotti (as above), Klopp (lol)
Not no chance, but basically, no chance: Klinsmann (likes nice life in US and has made that clear many times), de Boer (why come to 6th place, no CL Spurs when he could have his pick of CL teams, including perhaps Barca? Arsenal job next year maybe? Also, has a job he likes at the moment.)
Repeat of Santini/Ramos appointments/mistakes: Allegri, Spaletti
Repeat of AVB appointment/mistakes: Poccetinho, Donadoni
In a job: Rafa (not much sign he'll be sacked, or that he'd bail on a CL team after 1 season to come to Spurs), Hiddink (has new contract with Holland), Prandelli (just signed new contract with Itally to EC '16).
Horrible fit for Spurs/WTF??/Not good enough: Capello, Mancini, Mackay (!?), Laudrup, Poyet, Hoddle, Moyes (I just can't see Levy picking up sloppy seconds/damaged goods from Chelsea and United in consecutive seasons. Plus, it's Moyes.).
So Levy's choice is to take a decision to overcome/live with/ignore the listed problem with each of those candidates...or give Sherwood his 12 months.
The path of least resistance there is to just let Sherwood continue. And I think it's what Levy will do.
..........
So basically I see it as LvG or Sherwood, with the only name on that list who's the slightest other possibility being Frank de Boer if he just decides he wants London and a "project", likes Verts/Eriksen, doesn't get offered Barca, doesn't fancy waiting for Arsenal, hears nice things from BMJ etc. etc. Long, long shot.
That is true. Particularly with us. We need a figure head to rally around and unite us all again.
My point that just because a manager ( with a big reputation) may have failed somewhere before it doesn't mean they should be ruled out completely
Hold your horses everyone. If Emirates Marketing Project don't win the league who's to say they won't sack Pellegrini?
Thats 2 jobs in the PL that will be more appealing that us.
Forget LVG. Forget CA.
Realistically its FDB, RAFA, Pochettino and TS
And… and… D*v*d M*y*s
but hasnt LVG turned down Spurs no matter what??? Thats what ive been reading anyway, even if he doesnt get the Utd job he wont then be rolling up at WHL. Maybe he has had some discussions with Levy and feels that the Spurs job isnt right for him.
The more I think about it the more I want Pochettino, as the realistic choice. I love the football Southampton play, they've got an organised defence and while I don't think the results have gone their way, they've given the top teams a real game both home and away.
I honestly don't think the talent there is that great, but he's moulded a team that MAKES individual players look outstanding. I think he's decent, don't get me wrong, but seriously, Jay Rodriguez looks absolutely outstanding in that system and I'm not really sure that he is that great. Lambert is 32, I mean he looks outstanding too, but where has he been hiding all this time? I think they have a very good player in Lallana and an outstanding prospect in Shaw.
I think our squad looks very suited to the way he's got Southampton set up.
The front 3 for me would be sorted straight away: Rodriguez = Lamela, Lambert = Ade, Lallana = Eriksen. Already you can see there would be a step up in quality quite significantly to our squad, as we're comparing our players to the best area of their squad and IMO all ours are superior. So all those that say "Tim beat him twice" are being pretty ridiculous. Tim only just beat him twice with a lot of fortune going our way in both games, in which I thought Southampton looked the better side for long periods of both matches, but in which both matches our individual quality won through to win us the game.
I like the way he presents and holds himself too. I just have a good feeling about him being a great fit for us and he's proven to be able to mould a squad of young, promising players into an effective unit. I just think he'd be able to work well with Lamela, Eriksen, Chadli, Townsend, Kane, Bentaleb and make an attractive, effective team.
but hasnt LVG turned down Spurs no matter what??? Thats what ive been reading anyway, even if he doesnt get the Utd job he wont then be rolling up at WHL. Maybe he has had some discussions with Levy and feels that the Spurs job isnt right for him.
I think that's just Redknapp/Timmeh's pals in the red tops trying to embarrass us/Levy. Everything credible I've read suggests he and Levy made a gentleman's agreement in January, which they would finalise at the end of the season.
As he's seemingly not United's first choice, if they get any of the names higher up their list, there won't be another big EPL job coming up. If Ancelotti says yes, it's likely us or retirement for LVG.
Source?
That's not how I've been reading the news stories at all. Most rumours I've seen is him wanting a job in England, that he would want to come to us if no better option is available and that the one better option that's likely to be open is United.
Strong reports that Levy and LvG had fairly long meetings in December/January, was reported amongst other places on the second captains podcast with what seemed like good sources. And after that LvG mentioned us by name again.