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Moussa Sissoko

I'd say his strengths are what we need now. Kane, Son, Ali can do the shooting, we still need someone to push through midfield like that and put the entire defence into panic mode. If you've played competitively, you know how efficient and effective it is in breaking down organisation and team confidence.

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90291Spur said:
Against Villa he was playing in a new position
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He started on the right side of the 442 diamond where he played the majority of last season. Then he was shifted out to the right side of a 4231 where he had played in previous seasons and been terrible. Then he finished off in beside Ndombele in central midfield in 4231. This is where Poch started playing in at the end of the season when Winks got injured.


Do you guys actually watch Sissoko or are you too busy making excuses on Twitter or whatever during the games.
 
metalgear said:
I'd say his strengths are what we need now. Kane, Son, Ali can do the shooting, we still need someone to push through midfield like that and put the entire defence into panic mode. If you've played competitively, you know how efficient and effective it is in breaking down organisation and team confidence.

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That's pretty much what Ndombele is famed for. That and all the footballery stuff like passing, shooting, etc.
 
milo said:
He's one of the poorest players in our squad and is likely to find himself on the bench once the new players are settled.

Poch did a great job finding a role for him last season but let's be honest, it was forced on us and he wouldn't have had a starting place in any other Poch side during his time with us.
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Saturday?
 
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Modric THFC said:
He only really came into the team in the role people expect of him when Dembele went out injured.
He was given the task of running through the middle like Dembele did.
He never played well when Dembele was around.
His complete drop off now might be because he can't play with Ndombele.
We really don't need two players trying to do the same thing in our central midfield.
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His complete drop off! Lol
 
milo said:
It's not a boring trope, it is discussing the strengths and weaknesses of our side. I've been pretty supportive of Sissoko and have frequently posted about the improvements in his performances last season but you have to acknowledge that he is one of the weaker players in our team and the signings this summer seem to suggest that the manager thinks this is an area where we can improve too.

No one is talking about a team of Winks. The player who Sissoko replaced in the side last season had an entirely different skill set to Winks but was a significantly better footballer than Sissoko.

I recognise Sissoko's physicality and that it is a useful asset. I hope that Ndombele can bring this to the team but also have an eye for a pass.
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It is boring.
 
scaramanga said:
And now we have Ndombele (and previously had Dembele) who can do all of that, plus do the stuff actual footballers do like passing.

This is starting to sound a lot like the (can't be arsed version of) Adebayor argument. Once he stopped doing any of the actual useful stuff that footballers have to do, people started claiming that hiding on the touchline was actually pulling players out of position.

Sissoko has a lot of traits that are useful in a footballer. Unfortunately they only serve a purpose if he can do the footballer bits like passing or reading the game.
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How do you reconcile the Sissoko pass and assist with your argument?


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Maltese Falcon said:
No it isn't... but on the one hand we have a successful coach - universally acclaimed for his tactical nous - starts Sissoko week in week out, and plays him the whole game through, and gets results (top 4, CL final).... which therefore infers that he sees a value in that decision. It doesn't mean that Poch does not make mistakes. Yesterday's first half was one of them; however he addressed his own admitted mistake by a tactical switch which did not involve hauling off Sissoko but switching him to the position which is synch with his strengths.

On the other we have a group of posters whose knowledge of football at best extends to a Sunday league game in the park. who have been ridiculing the player since the day he signed. They seem to claim that a coach of Poch's abilities can, by some unexplained reason (maybe insanity), continue to pick a poor player week in week out without seeing the mistake that he is consistently doing and - crucially - get results in one of the most competitive leagues in the world.

So the question asks itself: Is Sissoko's place in the team because he brings qualities that benefit the team (even though they may not be those his critics want to see) and therefore have been crucial to last season's success... or is it because of Poch's consistent and persistent incompetence in choosing the best starting eleven?

In such divergent situations, Occam's razor is useful tool to establish veracity. So tell me, all things being equal, which is the simplest explanation of the two? The razor dictates that it is usually the correct one....
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Who was Sissoko keeping out of the team last season?
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
Who was Sissoko keeping out of the team last season?
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At various times - Dier, Wanyama, Dembele, Skipp I'd say.

I'm still struggling to see how Sissoko was the problem on Saturday? I saw Lamela and Moura playing far too close to Kane and Winks fail to play a single incisive pass despite being the player in our team who was afforded all the time and space. Eriksen coming on for Winks immediately resolved the issue with him using the time and space to play passes that actually got us into attacking positions instead of just allowing Villa to regroup behind the ball.
 
Finney Is Back said:
At various times - Dier, Wanyama, Dembele, Skipp I'd say.

I'm still struggling to see how Sissoko was the problem on Saturday? I saw Lamela and Moura playing far too close to Kane and Winks fail to play a single incisive pass despite being the player in our team who was afforded all the time and space. Eriksen coming on for Winks immediately resolved the issue with him using the time and space to play passes that actually got us into attacking positions instead of just allowing Villa to regroup behind the ball.
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Dier, Wanyama and Demebele were pretty much crocked all season.

The correct answer is:
Skipp (sometimes)
 
scaramanga said:
Sissoko has a lot of traits that are useful in a footballer. Unfortunately they only serve a purpose if he can do the footballer bits like passing or reading the game.
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You contradict yourself. Sissoko read the game, drove forward and made the pass (an assist) which served a clear purpose.
 
scaramanga said:
Dier, Wanyama and Demebele were pretty much crocked all season.

The correct answer is:
Skipp (sometimes)
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But even when they weren't Sissoko still seemed to play ahead of them

As I said before I think we'll see lots of rotation this year. I think all of our midfield will get a decent number of games and we'll be all the better for it towards the end of the season as we push for trophies. I think at present Wanyama and Dier are the two midfield players furthest from starting games but we'll hopefully play lots of games this season and even they will be able to make appearances.
 
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