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Modric - No Longer A Spurs Player
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nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
"influence" is just that, influence - it is not mind control. You could try to influence me to drink the red wine instead of white, if I do then its my choice to accept that influence. You are not responsible for my headache the next day!
If his actions are selfless then its a life style choice of generosity he has made. His choice.
Why? Come on - Modric is innocent in all this but didn't fly to America because......
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Do we really have to?
Fine... remember that this is pre-avb quotes.
1. Possibility of a deal between RM and spurs being extremely close.
2. AVB not wanting someone who clearly doesn't want to be with spurs any more anywhere near the players who do.
Were two pretty simple, pretty possible examples.
Sheikh Ma Nuggets
Tony Parks
It's an analogy to illustrate how some of you seemingly don't have a clue how to make an assumption of any sort; instead you need to be spoonfed absolutely everything. You've no idea how to relate your experience or intuition into judgement.
What's just dawning on you guys, dawned on everyone else 48hrs ago.
That's life though; some are painfully slower than others.
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
okay, so what is the issue here. nothing i have said is incorrect, both you and he were guys that said he hadnt done anything, sheihk and myself said he had, obviously we 'reached' based on the evidence at hand......reached about as far as an ants leg..but hey we seemed to get there in the end without being needing to get spoon fed the info
i dont even want to vilify, i just want him to leave on our terms without people trying to ...i dont know what word it is that describes people that know an answer but stretch out the questions with just being pedantic and looking for loop holes to survive an argument for as long as they can knowing that the other side is most probably right...there is a word for that kind of thing but i cant quite bag it.
fact of the matter is that luka was being disruptive , you can get to this conclusion EASILY. by the way, those quotes from AVB werent the first ones, but they were the first ones that had to spell it out for us so that people like you and little luka could keep this situation running where modric was some kind of misjudged prisoner of war. he never was and it was extremely obvious to see this, at least to me anyway.
having said all that, i've seen the papers tell some BIG ASS LIES
the guy is being an ass to get a move..thats HIS business and he can do what he wants, just as we can do what we want...tel him to shut the fudge up, he's under contract..he leaves at OUR price or he doesnt leave at all.
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i think you're focusing a bit too much on him having no choice in the matter - i may be wrong here but all i have seen is that some are suggesting that he is being/has been persuaded by others to do things he wouldn't necessarily do if left to his own devices - of course the final say is down to him but i think what Steff (and others) are alluding to is that there is some big pressure on him forcing the deal through (which leads to the skipping of training etc)
not sure if i go along with that or not but i don't think it's an entirely unrealistic suggestion
Sheikh Ma Nuggets
Tony Parks
It's impressive isn't it!
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Hear hooves think a horse?
Assuming things is a surefire way to be wrong a lot of the time.
It dawned that it was a possibility as soon as it was reported in the media, however you can't believe everything you read in the media.
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
so how much would attribute to him and how much would you attribute to someone else in both those situations?
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
I know, I agree with this.
Just for some reason some people don't quite understand a logical and scientific process.
Haha it gets the point across yeah!
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Its him, its his choice.
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
We said it was possible that he had not done anything wrong. At no point did i definitively state that Luka Modric had not been on strike and that he had not travelled with the squad because he chose not to.
Instead i kept my mind open to other possibilities. I've written this like 30-40 times in this thread and i just can't explain it any simpler..
You reached the conclusion based on evidence, yes, this time you did. However are you telling me that you are always 100% correct when you do that?
You bet on a horse. It won. That does not mean your always going to pick the winning horse.
Sheikh Ma Nuggets
Tony Parks
I don't; I make a living out of gathering information, and making an informed judgement call. In my line of work - in fact in some of the greatest mathematical theories of all time - you have to make some assumptions, otherwise nothing gets done; waiting for every single little piece of information to fall into place just doesn't cut it.
And guess what? I was right. Goes to prove that I didn't need to know absolutely every single piece of information to be able to make that judgement.
Some people can't do that, and it looks like you're one of them.
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
I know, Having done a physics degree i'm familiar with them. However this is real life.
You were right yes. However does that mean you never even entertain the possibility of being wrong?