I can't believe that some even amongst is spurs fans have brought into the media hype that we need to win a trophy.
Settle into the stadium and bring a trophy then buy not at that expense of poch.
We are punching well well well above our weight and the finger points to poch and his team.
This is such a patronising view. No, it has nothing to do with buying into the media hype. It is to do with a mixture of different factors. Such as, you know, our own opinions, our hopes for the club and our hopes to try to keep our players. Not everything is just media hype.
I know its normal to be biased but I just find this so strange. Some Man Utd fans are falling over themselves to compliment Mourinho for a press conference that would 100% be derided were it to come from Klopp or Benitez. And same here.
Yep we are punching well above our weight as a club. However, we have now assembled a squad that goes above the money spent. We have the best striker in the league for example, maybe even the world. Did we pay best striker in the league money to get him or pay him best striker in the league wages? No but he's here regardless. So we need to look at the squad we actually have, rather than just pat ourselves on the back for punching above our weight. I'd say we have maybe the 3rd or at worst 4th best squad in the league. Which should put us in contention for trophies.
Incidentally, Poch's attitude towards the cups and it creating a winning mentality clash with someone like Ferguson's, who referenced the league cup win as the watershed moment for his mid 2000s team which ended up winning it all, as it gave them a taste of success and left them wanting more.
Spurs fans always mention the league cup win under Ramos and say yeah but look at that! That didn't breed a winning mentality. So? Has anyone ever said that every team winning a trophy automatically develops a winning mentality? No, you have to push on and continue striving for trophies. You need to have a team that actually wants to win more.
At the expense of Poch? What is this strawman argument? How many people have said that Poch should be fired for not winning a trophy? Or that he's doing a terrible job? Nobody needs this black and white discussion. Anyone who says we should be starting to win trophies is automatically labelled as drinking the media cool aid and not realising that Spurs have somehow transcended the usual modus operandi of sports which is actually winning stuff. When people say hopefully it will shut up the 'Spurs need to win a trophy' phalanx, what do you mean by this? Do you think you'll honestly look back in 20 years time and say yep, I'm happy that our best squad in decades won nothing (if we don't)? I'm not saying that we won't, I'm hoping we pick up the FA cup and push on. But I just don't get the no trophy lot. At all. What are your hopes for this team? What do you think we can and should be achieving?
The opinions of Poch on this (and subsequently quite a few fans) are really baffling imo. The only big trophies are the champions league and the league. In that case, we are a bloody tiny club with 2 trophies in our history. Its like learning to run the 100m in record time before learning to crawl. We've never come close to winning the CL and we've not been within a few points of the league for GHod knows how long.
I'm sure those Espanyol fans also don't agree that it meant nothing.
The thing is, his underlying point isn't necessarily ridiculous. Yes the league winner always deserves it (cue someone jumping in now and telling me neither Leicester not Chelsea deserved it). The Fa cup and league cup winner can be lucky. Yep that is true. But who the hell cares? Lucky or not, you still have that trophy in your hand at the end. And also yes, the big trophies are the league and CL. But that is what someone like Zidane can say, Heynckes, Guardiola. Not Spurs, currently fighting to get into the CL next season and watching the CL on TV.