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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked
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Heda SPURSCZ
Steven Caulker
wiziwig
Steed Malbranque
And Danny Rose..
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
Losing Alli and Dembele for the last two games was a blow for sure; but is it enough of a reason/excuse to not pick up a single point vs Soton at home and Saudi Sportswashing Machine away?
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indianspur
Guest
Of course no excuse. For example look at Leicester, they lost vital Vardy for two games so Ranieri had to come up with tactics to cope without him. Ulloa is nowhere near similar to Vardy but he came in and was effective because Ranieri adjusted the team and tactics to get the best out him. Leicester got 4 points from Swansea and Man Utd.
lurker of old
Gus Poyet
Getting this thread back to our manager...where is he? On hols? He has been completely absent from the OS for ages (hasn't he?). Wondered if he has taken a well earned break or is at the training ground or what? He was certainly feeling the pressure in the last few games....
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Having a holiday!! Levy needs to sort this out. Pity we didn't know about this before he signed the contract.
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
Poch Watch : last seen a few days ago fraternising at SCBC (Kelvin Davis testimonial).
Maybe he had the chance to whisper a few words of encouragement in Wanyama's ear.
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
We don't need any encouragement!Could it be Soton are trying to get him back?!
Cue the conspiracies...
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
http://analysport.fr/tottenham-en/
The article above is just a fantastic piece about our tactics under Poch. I won't actually transcribe it here, because I want that site to get as many clicks as possible for putting together such a detailed breakdown of what we do and how we do it, complete with countless in-play videos illustrating what's being discussed and also coherent analyses of where we go wrong.
Personally, I can't fault the conclusions of the article at all. I'd previously wondered why we were being linked with so many attacking midfielders in a summer where a striker and a DM backup seemed to be the greater priority, but looking at what the attacking midfield trio do as per that article ,and where they tend to fall short, I can see the need for one whose first touch allows him to turn quicker or control the ball faster in situations where the horizontal line behind Kane seeks to orient itself towards the opposition goal in short order. I can also see why we need ball-playing defenders like Toby given our seeming reliance on that method as one of the chief aspects of our playing style, and links with players Poch has worked with previously (at Soton, mainly) make more sense now given how much his players are evidently expected to do in terms of maintaining tactical awareness and discipline. In particular, given the quotes from Schneiderlin about how Poch makes him play that are interspersed throughout the article, it saddens me even more that our attempt to get him was so transparently farcical back in 2014. Ah, well.
My main concerns would be that firstly, the article points out a seemingly persistent problem with our tactical approach in terms of forwards that drop deep to conduct play effectively 'breaking' our defensive setup due to offering passing lanes that can't be covered by the players defending, and secondly, that the article itself doesn't really pinpoint how the game at Saudi Sportswashing Machine went so horribly, horribly wrong.
The article above is just a fantastic piece about our tactics under Poch. I won't actually transcribe it here, because I want that site to get as many clicks as possible for putting together such a detailed breakdown of what we do and how we do it, complete with countless in-play videos illustrating what's being discussed and also coherent analyses of where we go wrong.
Personally, I can't fault the conclusions of the article at all. I'd previously wondered why we were being linked with so many attacking midfielders in a summer where a striker and a DM backup seemed to be the greater priority, but looking at what the attacking midfield trio do as per that article ,and where they tend to fall short, I can see the need for one whose first touch allows him to turn quicker or control the ball faster in situations where the horizontal line behind Kane seeks to orient itself towards the opposition goal in short order. I can also see why we need ball-playing defenders like Toby given our seeming reliance on that method as one of the chief aspects of our playing style, and links with players Poch has worked with previously (at Soton, mainly) make more sense now given how much his players are evidently expected to do in terms of maintaining tactical awareness and discipline. In particular, given the quotes from Schneiderlin about how Poch makes him play that are interspersed throughout the article, it saddens me even more that our attempt to get him was so transparently farcical back in 2014. Ah, well.
My main concerns would be that firstly, the article points out a seemingly persistent problem with our tactical approach in terms of forwards that drop deep to conduct play effectively 'breaking' our defensive setup due to offering passing lanes that can't be covered by the players defending, and secondly, that the article itself doesn't really pinpoint how the game at Saudi Sportswashing Machine went so horribly, horribly wrong.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Good post mate (and I will read the article a little later on). To answer your last question about why it went so wrong at Saudi Sportswashing Machine, I would say that initially (the first half) we played with no intensity at all. In the second half we upped our intensity and got a goal back, at that point I was confident that we would at least equalise and possibly even go on to win it, but the sending off changed things. We seemed to immediately go to gung-ho, instead of realising we had 20 minutes left to get our goal. We lost all of the shape and defensive discipline that had served us so well all season. The players were simply just too eager to get back into the game instead of showing the right patience and carrying on doing the right things. Something that is reasonably easily solved by the manager and the collective group.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
First thing that happened was the dive and penalty to make it 3-1. Then we lost our shape and discipline. But with two goals to make up in 20 minutes it's kind of understandable.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
This for me as well, And imo it all started with the Chelski game when we completely lost the plot. Under Poch all season we have shown patience and the discipline to believe/know that sooner or later our game would enable us to get a result. What we did in the Chelski game was we lost everything in terms of controlling what we do and lost our heads and we never got our structure back in the remaining games.
I was amazed how many of our fans applauded what we did in the Chelski game, I said at the time that there is nothing wrong with showing aggression but it has to be controlled ( and it was anything but that) and in that moment we lost not only our chance of finishing in the top two but our structure and composure. I hope that Poch has tore a strip off the players and they have learnt that IF we are to progress we have to be in control of not only the game but their emotions as well.
afsoc4life
Vedran Corluka
@DubaiSpur I read the article - it is very interesting. Thanks for posting. I found it interesting that our defensive compactness is also dependent on how comfortable the CB feels as well. It would explain why the best tactic by teams facing Spurs would be to employ a target man.
Bullet
Andy Thompson
No, my memory is poor but I'm pretty sure Toby was marauding down the right wing, leaving Verts vs Sissoko... that structural indiscipline came first, not the dive didn't it? We jumped straight into their pockets.
That, and I think Walker might have been off by that point. So along with Rose missing, that meant we had no pace at the back, and Saudi Sportswashing Machine just hit us with fast counter attacks with Townsend and Sissoko, as we pushed up the field with a slow and mis-shapen defence.
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
Yes Walker went off just minutes before the pen, so for once Poch has to shoulder the blame for leaving us so exposed at the back. It was an all-or-nothing gamble, a desperate last throw of the dice that came disastrously unstuck but given how desperate we were for the equaliser it was maybe forgiveable in the circumstances.