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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked

metalgear said:
once the stadium is built and our cash flow increases, there will be more funds available which would increase player transfer options. levy is likely to up the ante, and hopefully will be able to keep the management alignment as we grow.
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I doubt that we will see an immediate influx of cash as soon as the stadium is finished. I would have also thought that if Poch's methods had been successful enough for him to still be with us when it opens, we are unlikely to change track after.
 
Gazzasrightboot said:
You've got nothing to apologise for. Whereas I may not agree with your outlook in this instance, you're perfectly entitled to your opinion. I'd rather you could share my outlook but I'm not going to force you. You support the club that I support. That makes you better than most in my book. Just lay off the hyperbole. Fairy world? Ha!
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Well, I would have preferred 'you have nothing to apologise for, because secretly I've always agreed with you, you eloquent Lothario of a human being'....but I'll take what I can get. :p Cheers, mate.
 
milo said:
I doubt that we will see an immediate influx of cash as soon as the stadium is finished. I would have also thought that if Poch's methods had been successful enough for him to still be with us when it opens, we are unlikely to change track after.
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gradually we should see the commercial deals add up. it boils down to expectations i guess, and how one defines "successful enough" but I am sure expectations will be raised by fans and media in general. me i just hope that we get champions league football year in year out and the odd cup. poch will be a spurs legend to to me if his methods can achieve that.
 
milo said:
I doubt that we will see an immediate influx of cash as soon as the stadium is finished. I would have also thought that if Poch's methods had been successful enough for him to still be with us when it opens, we are unlikely to change track after.
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You're probably right, milo. The one difference I can see is that we would probably be more aggressive in pursuing Martial-type players and be able to pull it off. Naturally, without getting fleeced a la Manure.
 
Rorschach said:
When YOU complain on a message board it's like that. When I do it is more like Les Misérables (with background music and all) ;)
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Always found the premise of Les Mis highly amusing, to be honest. :)

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stinkfoot said:
That goal difference as well.

Could prove decisive.

Love it.
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+26 is the same goal difference we finished the 2009-10 campaign on, which was the best we've had since +27 back in 1984-85, so hopefully a good omen!

The last time Spurs finished a season with the best GD in the top division was way back in 1962-63, oddly enough it was Leicester and ourselves who were the top 2 after 25 games back then too...

http://www.statto.com/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/1962-1963/table/1963-02-19
 
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Jordinho said:
Hertyid said this: I know for a fact that we don't have free cash flow right now, it's all being reinvested into the NDP.

The Goat said that's wrong.

I do think we are investing as much as we can, when we can though. Putting it away in an offshore account? Nah.
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I think it is pretty straight-forward. Money is there to bolster contracts/extend them. Money is there for one or two 'big' signings if Poch determines he needs them. otherwise, no need. This is a manager who does not need a new 'toy' every window, only the necessary ones. Fantastic.
 
DubaiSpur said:
You might well be right.

Look, steff: I'm sorry, mate. I've kinda realised that my frustration and disappointment spills over into the forum too easily at times, and that's despite my newfound attempts to stay calm and put it in perspective. I've never held anything against those I could hold a reasoned conversation with, and I never will: trust me when I say that I understand why you and the others I enjoy interacting with (most of this forum) can get annoyed with my posting behaviour at times.

I won't be able to change my pessimistic outlook as easily as you suggest: it's odd, because I've mostly been a happy-go-lucky type in areas not involving Spurs, often to my great detriment. :p I suppose the ghost of 2011/2012 still hangs heavy on me and makes me see pitfalls where others only see gold-paved roads. But what I can change is my contributions to this forum, and I'll keep trying to do so, hopefully with more success going forward.

Stay frosty, mate. ;)
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Oh it's all good mate, different views and whatnot...I think it is vital to note the difference long-term in the two situations. Whatever happens this season, we have a solid foundation for the coming years...but yeah, enjoy this. Take it from me, 44 conscious years of supporting this wonderful club, and it hasn't felt better from top to bottom than now in terms of a structure, plan and belief. If it continues, delivery is inevitable.
 
Really impressive stuff today at the lane. The good vibes continue.

I think only us and Leicester have the togetherness and a cohesive game plan. Emirates Marketing Project and Arsenal are both good teams, and the exceptional individuals they have can still carry them to the title, but a lot of their games are just a little to chaotic. There is just not the control there and all this does is put an already suspect defence under the kosh.

Poch has got the control side and the defensive structure down to a fine art (i mean Lloris must be bored:)!), and what i am seeing now is the gradual development of our attacking side.

Since christmas we are getting more and more confident passing in tight areas in the final third. We are doing it with pace and incisiveness and more players are making moves that ask for a pass. This i think is suiting Eriksen he is really starting to tick.

Our full backs are basically now our wingers and we are using them effectively (Dembele/Dier are always covering/supporting them). This is making it increasingly difficult for 'park the bus' teams to survive against us.

The final thing to work on is our final ball and that could just be a decision making thing. Young players are rarely good at this but at least it can be taught.
 
Yes, we controlled the game so, so well today. It was a shame something didn't fall for us earlier, one of Davies' shots or whatever, as it made the game feel more tight than it really was.

I agree that Son/Alli had more penetration than Chadli/Lamela today.

PS - People wanted us to spend money, but we did spend about £20m on Son and £10m on Njie and we haven't really seen them up to speed yet ("they'll be like new signings Brian").

PPS - Poch used to leave subs til way too late... recently he has made swaps after 55 mins and changed the game totally, much better than 87 mins when we need a goal.
 
Are we ignoring that year on year we're more or less static in our league position? Or has the league become harder, with more teams able to snag points? Probably both top teams not performing and the league is harder with more parity across the division, in which case Poch is the Messiah!

What is so encouraging is Pochettinho, and the club, seem to be methodical and smart. Last season our defence was our undoing. Obvious yes, but it was dealt with; the club recruited well and Poch tweaked our setup. As the season has progressed we've looked more and more composed defensively.

The next step over the summer will likely be signing at least one player who can make a difference in attack. You can see why we didn't splash the cash in Jan on a striker. There is a rationale in getting the right players in with a pre-season (and we have Son, Chadli, Njie who are probably all better than say Dembele MkII up front). Whether we can sign an Alderweireld-level attacking player over the summer is debatable however.
 
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I can't commen on the ages of everyone on here but I'm 39!!!

This is comfortably the strongest Spurs TEAM I've seen since 87 and it's probably better than that as everything is spread across the side (defence and attack)

I stand by my comments that I've made numerous times around the team but being they most important

To stop city you stop aguero and Silva when he is playing well
To stop Arsenal you stop Ozil and Sanchez and nothing is created for them
To stop us ... We have goals form everywhere despite people thinking it's all about Kane and the other players scoring are scoring the important goals. So whilst we have improved immensely in defence we have also improved massively in attack
Leicester play as a team too but to stop them you need to sit deep like Watford did today and play them at their own game I think
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I can't commen on the ages of everyone on here but I'm 39!!!

This is comfortably the strongest Spurs TEAM I've seen since 87 and it's probably better than that as everything is spread across the side (defence and attack)

I stand by my comments that I've made numerous times around the team but being they most important

To stop city you stop aguero and Silva when he is playing well
To stop Arsenal you stop Ozil and Sanchez and nothing is created for them
To stop us ... We have goals form everywhere despite people thinking it's all about Kane and the other players scoring are scoring the important goals. So whilst we have improved immensely in defence we have also improved massively in attack
Leicester play as a team too but to stop them you need to sit deep like Watford did today and play them at their own game I think
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I hope we do see teams sit back against Leicester. Opponents do it to us weekly! It would be interesting to see us add Leicester's set up to our tactical options - so we can sit back and break now and again. I think Poch tried to get us playing a tight defensive formation at times last year, and it didn't really work. Against Norwich he praised the way we stayed compact and composed and defended the second half - a new step for the team?

Leicester's are so incisive on the break, the way they cut through teams is impressive. As you say if their opponents sit back and counter, they may find it difficult.
 
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Bedfordspurs said:
I can't commen on the ages of everyone on here but I'm 39!!!

This is comfortably the strongest Spurs TEAM I've seen since 87 and it's probably better than that as everything is spread across the side (defence and attack)

I stand by my comments that I've made numerous times around the team but being they most important

To stop city you stop aguero and Silva when he is playing well
To stop Arsenal you stop Ozil and Sanchez and nothing is created for them
To stop us ... We have goals form everywhere despite people thinking it's all about Kane and the other players scoring are scoring the important goals. So whilst we have improved immensely in defence we have also improved massively in attack
Leicester play as a team too but to stop them you need to sit deep like Watford did today and play them at their own game I think
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I'm a couple of years older than you and agree
 
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