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Manager Sack Watch 2015/16

Jordinho said:
Only in 5th place. Terrible job he must have been doing.
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Jordinho said:
The official stance is that they have not made enough progress. They're 5 points off the top FFS.
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galeforce said:
they're derby county ffs!
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To be fair, they have been failing at the playoffs for the past several years. I can see why they feel that automatic promotion is the only definition of 'progress'.

However, the fact that they're 5 points off top does really throw their desperation into relief.
 
After less than a season in charge though... How can they demand that kind of instant success? Makes it seem like there's something else to this...

Perhaps they have a lead that Neville will be available soon ;)
 
braineclipse said:
After less than a season in charge though... How can they demand that kind of instant success? Makes it seem like there's something else to this...

Perhaps they have a lead that Neville will be available soon ;)
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According to an article I read yesterday it seems they are trying to say it's nothing to do with the results. Apparently when he took over he was given some targets such as identifying young players to improve the squad depth, improving the style of football etc. This is where they said he was failing. Still seems harsh from the outside though.
 
dingdongo said:
According to an article I read yesterday it seems they are trying to say it's nothing to do with the results. Apparently when he took over he was given some targets such as identifying young players to improve the squad depth, improving the style of football etc. This is where they said he was failing. Still seems harsh from the outside though.
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That's the kind of assessment you do after the season is over. This seems very much like they've panicked over a bad run of results.
 
Someone like Moyes,who would be a great long-term bet. However, why would Moyes take the risk? Saudi Sportswashing Machine should be where they are, given the players they have, so they just need a manager to give them a boost.

Timmy?
 
Saudi Sportswashing Machine are where they are because they keep thinking managers are the problem and not the players with questionable attitudes and work rate

If I was Ashley I'd get mclaren to commit long term and set about rebuilding the squad around homegrown youth talent, a couple of years in the championship could be good for them, they need that kick into action

mclaren has proven what a quality coach he can be
 
galeforce said:
Saudi Sportswashing Machine are where they are because they keep thinking managers are the problem and not the players with questionable attitudes and work rate

If I was Ashley I'd get mclaren to commit long term and set about rebuilding the squad around homegrown youth talent, a couple of years in the championship could be good for them, they need that kick into action

mclaren has proven what a quality coach he can be
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They tried that with pardew and the fans turned on him. They are not far behind Liverpool in the delusion stakes.
 
galeforce said:
pardews an idiot though, he's never been more than a short term fix

mclaren is a talented coach
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Agree about pardew, not so sure about mclaren.
It's a minor that Saudi Sportswashing Machine are still in the PL when you look at what a circus it is.
 
glasgowspur said:
Agree about pardew, not so sure about mclaren.
It's a minor that Saudi Sportswashing Machine are still in the PL when you look at what a circus it is.
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I think that Ashley has been happy with bobbing along, making the drop is probably the only thing that can move them forward
 
Ashley is an expert at taking failed brands, creating an inferior product under that brand and selling it at a high profit margin but advertising it as "value".

Queue all their players working in the new sports direct "pro advice" section from next season
 
Mike Ashley has no interest in long term success, in his world a 17th placed finish, PL TV money and free worldwide advertising for Sports Direct is perfect. The whole club is a shell, ran on the bare minimum, a shadow of what it should be. It lives in its own little bubble and is no longer part of the city of Saudi Sportswashing Machine as it should be. This will never change while Ashley is at the club and everything is done on the cheap. It's little wonder the players don't give a brick when they are playing for a club that doesn't give a brick about anything.

I want us to be relegated. Then relegated again. And again if needs be until Ashley has gone. Then and only then can we start to re-build our club into being a football club again rather than advertising vehicle for cheap brick sportswear. fudge off.
 
glasgowspur said:
They tried that with pardew and the fans turned on him. They are not far behind Liverpool in the delusion stakes.
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This is weapons-grade gonads. A few facts about Mr. Pardew:

Alan Pardew was the first Saudi Sportswashing Machine manager to lose 6 consecutive Premier League games.

In the 2013-14 season, Alan Pardew’s Saudi Sportswashing Machine lost 4 home games in a row without scoring a goal – the first time in the club’s entire history that this has happened.

No Premier League club suffered more home defeats in 2012-13 than Saudi Sportswashing Machine under Alan Pardew.

“Saudi Sportswashing Machine’s loss to Liverpool is the first time the Magpies had lost a top-flight home game by a margin of six or more goals since September 1925 when Blackburn were 7-1 winners”.

Alan Pardew managed Saudi Sportswashing Machine to its first series of four consecutive derby losses vs Sunderland ever.

In 21 games played over 20 years under 10 different managers Sunderland only managed to beat Saudi Sportswashing Machine 3 times, and never by more than a single goal. In a 10 month period between April 2013 and December 2014 Sunderland beat Alan Pardew’s Saudi Sportswashing Machine 4 times by an aggregate score of 1-9.

There's plenty more. And they wonder why we wanted him gone.
 
Greg said:
This is weapons-grade cobblers. A few facts about Mr. Pardew:

Alan Pardew was the first Saudi Sportswashing Machine manager to lose 6 consecutive Premier League games.

In the 2013-14 season, Alan Pardew’s Saudi Sportswashing Machine lost 4 home games in a row without scoring a goal – the first time in the club’s entire history that this has happened.

No Premier League club suffered more home defeats in 2012-13 than Saudi Sportswashing Machine under Alan Pardew.

“Saudi Sportswashing Machine’s loss to Liverpool is the first time the Magpies had lost a top-flight home game by a margin of six or more goals since September 1925 when Blackburn were 7-1 winners”.

Alan Pardew managed Saudi Sportswashing Machine to its first series of four consecutive derby losses vs Sunderland ever.

In 21 games played over 20 years under 10 different managers Sunderland only managed to beat Saudi Sportswashing Machine 3 times, and never by more than a single goal. In a 10 month period between April 2013 and December 2014 Sunderland beat Alan Pardew’s Saudi Sportswashing Machine 4 times by an aggregate score of 1-9.

There's plenty more. And they wonder why we wanted him gone.
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So you're saying you don't like him?
 
Greg said:
This is weapons-grade cobblers. A few facts about Mr. Pardew:

Alan Pardew was the first Saudi Sportswashing Machine manager to lose 6 consecutive Premier League games.

In the 2013-14 season, Alan Pardew’s Saudi Sportswashing Machine lost 4 home games in a row without scoring a goal – the first time in the club’s entire history that this has happened.

No Premier League club suffered more home defeats in 2012-13 than Saudi Sportswashing Machine under Alan Pardew.

“Saudi Sportswashing Machine’s loss to Liverpool is the first time the Magpies had lost a top-flight home game by a margin of six or more goals since September 1925 when Blackburn were 7-1 winners”.

Alan Pardew managed Saudi Sportswashing Machine to its first series of four consecutive derby losses vs Sunderland ever.

In 21 games played over 20 years under 10 different managers Sunderland only managed to beat Saudi Sportswashing Machine 3 times, and never by more than a single goal. In a 10 month period between April 2013 and December 2014 Sunderland beat Alan Pardew’s Saudi Sportswashing Machine 4 times by an aggregate score of 1-9.

There's plenty more. And they wonder why we wanted him gone.
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Why is it cobblers? They gave pardew an 8 year contract (can't remember number but it was something dumb) to encourage stability and rebuild (supposedly, don't actually believe that myself). All I ever hear from Saudi Sportswashing Machine fans is we're a big club fallen way below where we should be. Yet every manager is expected to turn it around in a couple of weeks.
Pardew is an idiot, but he was a symptom at Saudi Sportswashing Machine, not the illness.
 
Pardew looks fine as a manager for fairly long stretches. Managed a difficult situation well at Saudi Sportswashing Machine for a long time, did well at Palace up until a couple of months back. When on form his teams play football that's fun to watch and he manages to get a lot out of some flair players.

Then come the bad stretches... When he just looks clueless and unable to turn things around. Like now for Palace and several times for Saudi Sportswashing Machine. His team just look deflated and with no confidence and Pardew just... doesn't find any solutions. Big worry for any team with him in charge. But overall he's not a bad manager I think.
 
He's an awful manager. Same trajectory at West Ham, Saudi Sportswashing Machine and CPFC - start well built on bull brick and then fail miserably.
 
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