Lemonade Money
Dimitar Berbatov
Surely a major factor is Poch would rather tinkle off Wimmer than Dier (not that he wants to tinkle either of them off)?
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Kevin Wimmer
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SUIYHA
Scott Parker
My prediction is that he plays tonight, gets torn to pieces because of a lack of match sharpness, then gets hounded out of the club by angry fans and media claiming he's not good enough. He will then complain to the media in two years time that he was never given a chance and has now found his spiritual home at a new club, before scoring against us in an important game and whipping his rooster out in front of our fans.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
If that happens the main reason for it will be the ecxellent performances by the Alderweireld, Vertonghen partnership imo.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I thought Wimmer did well Saturday. It was quite an act of faith from Poch to throw him into that game, a strange system, and importantly playing in the centre (the most important part) of the back 3.
Playing 80+ minutes on a yellow and there being no mental repercussions after the OG were good testaments of his character too.
I hope we can find enough minutes for him this season to keep him happy, because I think he'll be eclipsing Verts before long.
Playing 80+ minutes on a yellow and there being no mental repercussions after the OG were good testaments of his character too.
I hope we can find enough minutes for him this season to keep him happy, because I think he'll be eclipsing Verts before long.
We will do, after Christmas we will be in the Europa imo and I hope that we actually prioritise it tbh. I think the top 4 will be a proper scrap and Chelsea/Liverpool having that clear advantage is something that will really pay dividends after Christmas. We have a small squad as Poch pointed out this morning and probably the least quality depth of all the challengers but we can have a go on both fronts but for me I would be very happy if we ended up 6th if we could win the Europa League.
Wimmer should play all the Europa games and the CSKA game if we are out by then anyway plus it wouldn't be such a bad thing to rotate him and Vertonghen throughout Jan/Feb which are busy months with the FA Cup coming into play.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
That would be nice and i hope that is what we will do. Lets try and win something.
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
I mostly agree with you here that Wimmer played well. Although I would argue that the two on the right and left side of the partnership are the most important players when playing 3 at the back with the central role in the three is the easiest to play in terms of positioning.
If Wimmer is indeed eclipsing Vertonghen before long then he will be a brilliant centre half as (IMO) Vertonghen is one of the best 4 or 5 centre halves in the Premier League right now and probably hasn't even reached his peak as a centre half yet.
Couldn't agree more. We have sold out in competitions to prioritise qualifying for the CL and for a number of factors, we are not quite up to par for it just yet. Lets actually win something and at least by winning the Europa you get a top trophy and a chance of doing yourself justice in the CL next season. I had a brief look at the top 2 teams in all the groups plus the likely fall outs from the CL and it won't have many real big hitters come the knockout rounds.
We could do it, we just have to believe and really knuckle down to it.
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
There is no reason for us not to go for it in the Europa if we finish 3rd in our CL group. We would enter at a decent stage of the competition and I think we would be a seeded team so should get a decent draw. We have also (in theory) put a squad together for the CL so should be prepared for 2 games a week. Having gone out of the League Cup is also an advantage here in terms of fixture congestion.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
A man after my own heart, sick to death of seeing us going out of cup competitions with barely a whimper. Lets try to put some silverware into our very dusty trophy cabinet.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
I agree with that, i do believe that if we do go down that route then we will see Toby on the right and Jan on the left with Dier in the middle.
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
Indeed considering that he is just 23 years old I think he could have a very productive future with us
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
Indeed.... Which actually isn't really that different from our 4-2-3-1 last season anyway.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Indeed, but it will mean a little change in the mentality of the players in front of the three and will also enable us to play Kane and Jannsen together.
paxtonwolf
Tony Marchi
Pretty sure you are right. IIRC the 4 highest ranked 3rd place teams are seeded with the 12 Group winners. Think we were the 18th highest ranked team in the CL, so it would probably need 4 of the Pot 1 or Pot 2 clubs not to qualify for us to be not seeded.
And right now all 8 groups have the Pot 1 and Pot 2 teams in the Top 2 spots. Also Group A and D's qualifiers are already confirmed
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
He just does the basics well and reads the game well
He is still young and inexperienced relatively and for me was great yesterday all things considered
He is still young and inexperienced relatively and for me was great yesterday all things considered
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
Agreed. The OG was him trying to stop a Goon from scoring as he had one in front and knew there were some (offside) lurking behind. And despite it being a clear yellow, the way him made c0ckelin flop around like a salmon gasping for air was a thing of beauty (and the sort of challenge I do not condone).
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
On the Tottenham Way podcast last week either Dan Kilpatrick (podcast host and ESPN journalist dedicated to Spurs) or Greg Stobart (pod guest, Sqwarka journalist, Spirs fan, supposedly with contacts at the club) was talking about Wimmer and why he wasn't being selected even on the bench ,with Toby being out. One of them said (I think it was Stobart) that the club were open to selling him last summer and that Poch has some issues with him, suggesting it was fitness, or weight issues, or something like that.
Hopefully total rubbish based on inaccurate info (and even if there were some truth in the summer it doesn't mean it is still the case now).
After the excellent job he did last season filling in for Jan I'd hope he does feature in Poch's plans although opportunities might be limited for him when our first choice CBs are fit. Thought he did well enough on Sunday and would like to see him given more opportunities, although hard to see where they could come from apart from FA Cup (assuming/hoping we can get through the CL group stages).
Hopefully total rubbish based on inaccurate info (and even if there were some truth in the summer it doesn't mean it is still the case now).
After the excellent job he did last season filling in for Jan I'd hope he does feature in Poch's plans although opportunities might be limited for him when our first choice CBs are fit. Thought he did well enough on Sunday and would like to see him given more opportunities, although hard to see where they could come from apart from FA Cup (assuming/hoping we can get through the CL group stages).
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
Wimmer does look a bit on the 'cuddly' side.
What's that podcast like?